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Re: Google Classroom

#21

Post by watwut »

When people complain about being tracked by Google and loosing privacy, they get told that they should simply not use it. If Google Classroom is used, students/parents are effectively given no choice in the matter.

If the Google decides to ban students gmail account (because students name does not sound real enough or without explanation), the student is f-ed.

But mostly, my primary reason why not to use it in school would be that you never know whether Google close the project next year or not.

Re: Google Classroom

#22

Post by DodgyEggplant »

VLM wrote: post #19
DodgyEggplant wrote: post #10

Another product without support, without someone to call if things don't work, or worse: your classroom was banned (e.g., a student tried to mess with it). The model were your work, organisation and critical data relies on a no support platform can not work.

"critical data" There is no critical data in a grade school, like my kids school which uses GAE, and presumably will use this workforce automation stuff that appears to live on top of GAE. Even in high school or university, there just isn't "critical data". Also classrooms don't rely on much other than the roof and HVAC. In practice, when the internet is down, the kids just do something else.

Critical, IMHO, is not "critical to man kind" but "critical to the organisation that uses the data". We should ask a teacher that his/her class was banned, all access is blocked and he/she finds out that there is nobody to talk to, and he/she must find this cousin who's friend worked for google last year maybe they can help to reach out somebody.

Re: Google Classroom

#23

Post by esteer »

This was the exact same idea that I submitted for Google Cloud Developer Challenge in last November. I could not finish the app in time because of my exams and followed by my internship. I'm not sure if this is their original idea or they've read my application. Is there anything I can do about it? Even if I can't, this just boosted my confidence on my startup ideas.

Re: Google Classroom

#24

Post by Shooti »

DodgyEggplant wrote: post #10

Another product without support, without someone to call if things don't work, or worse: your classroom was banned (e.g., a student tried to mess with it). The model were your work, organisation and critical data relies on a no support platform can not work.

http://contact.googleapps.com/

Re: Google Classroom

#26

Post by jmathai »

esteer wrote: post #23

This was the exact same idea that I submitted for Google Cloud Developer Challenge in last November. I could not finish the app in time because of my exams and followed by my internship. I'm not sure if this is their original idea or they've read my application. Is there anything I can do about it? Even if I can't, this just boosted my confidence on my startup ideas.

Google has been adding services for schools for a few years. They announced Google Play for schools at an IO a year it two ago.

Re: Google Classroom

#27

Post by Filligree »

georgedrummond wrote: post #14

> More teaching, less tech-ing Horrible copy

It struck just the right tone with me. These systems are supposed to save time, but they usually don't.

If it'll just get out of the way and let people work, I think Google might have a winner.

Re: Google Classroom

#28

Post by Karunamon »

I wonder if they have any plan on releasing this toolset to non-academic users? I can see this being really useful in the enterprise for training and such.

Re: Google Classroom

#29

Post by ankitml »

UK-AL wrote: post #6
buro9 wrote: post #3

I asked my partner what she thought of this as she is a tenured lecturer at a Russell Group university. Her view is that they would not only not be able to use this (politically they feel the need to have everything in the UK) but that there was a preference to support a universal framework that they had full control over. Specifically her university (Exeter) uses a version of Moodle: https://moodle.org/ That said, I…

Moodle is used everywhere in the UK, FE Colleges, Sixth Form etc. However students hate it, mainly because its not very good.

Students, teachers and administrators everyone hates it. Though I would say this is partly because teachers and administrators arent trained properly.

I agree it does have a UI which dates back a decade and consequently not a very good UX, However moodle HQ is well aware of this problem and I expect them to crank out better UI/UX in newer versions. The lack of training aspect, I am not sure how much are they serious in tackling.

All generalizations are false, including this one.

Re: Google Classroom

#30

Post by Karunamon »

DodgyEggplant wrote: post #22
VLM wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"critical data" There is no critical data in a grade school, like my kids school which uses GAE, and presumably will use this workforce automation stuff that appears to live on top of GAE. Even in high school or university, there just isn't "critical data". Also classrooms don't rely on much other than the roof and HVAC. In practice, when the internet is down, the kids just do something else.

Critical, IMHO, is not "critical to man kind" but "critical to the organisation that uses the data". We should ask a teacher that his/her class was banned, all access is blocked and he/she finds out that there is nobody to talk to, and he/she must find this cousin who's friend worked for google last year maybe they can help to reach out somebody.

Again, this only works on the paid Apps for Education plan, which explicitly has phone support.

If it's anything like their business support, it'll be pretty good.

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