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IRS considers taxing work perks like food, gym memberships

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Re: IRS considers taxing work perks like food, gym memberships

#21
The income tax is meant to model: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haig%E2%80%93Simons_income. Income = consumption + delta(wealth).

Free food is literally consumption, and falls within the umbrella of the tax. Heretofore, it has been ignored as de minimis, but the principle always applied. E.g. if companies could get away with giving non-cash compensation like cars on a non-taxable basis, they would.

Re: IRS considers taxing work perks like food, gym memberships

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I work for a Bay Area company that has a very conservative interpretation of this "extra perks as compensation which is taxable thing". Yes, gym memberships and lunch are counted as taxable compensation. And no, our company does not "gross up".

It's a marginal cost per day/month, and frankly speaking, most of the people at the company can afford it.

Re: IRS considers taxing work perks like food, gym memberships

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Is there anything this country does not want to tax?! How much more burden can we take?

This is not something new the government is taxing, it's just extending the income tax from 'all income paid in money' to 'all income paid in money, goods and services', which is reasonable since money is just a proxy for 'all the things you buy with money', like food or gym memberships.

Are you going to tax me for the time my employer's offices provide me shelter at my job?

Re: IRS considers taxing work perks like food, gym memberships

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It's a tricky thing: Suppose you volunteer to run the phones for your local NPR funding drive. While you're there, they provide you with breakfast. Will it make our country better to tax the free food?

Food at work makes work more efficient. It may be a perk, but it's less portable than getting paid the street value of whatever food is provided. You can't take it with you, or use that food to earn interest, nor can you get it if you're not at work. You don't get to pick what food gets served or how much it costs, nor can you refuse it in lieu of cash.

There are valid arguments for taxing perks, but it's a tricky issue.

Re: IRS considers taxing work perks like food, gym memberships

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post #6

Is there anything this country does not want to tax?! How much more burden can we take?

This is not something new the government is taxing, it's just extending the income tax from 'all income paid in money' to 'all income paid in money, goods and services', which is reasonable since money is just a proxy for 'all the things you buy with money', like food or gym memberships.

Although I doubt this story is particularly true, if the reduction in pay is roughly equivalent to the cost of food otherwise, employer-provided food is likely still a net-benefit (if you often bring food from home this decreases for married couples, strongly decreases with children). If the food is provided to you at no cost but offsetting some salary, then you're at least preventing the government from double-dipping your taxes for those meals; you wont pay the sales tax on the food.

Re: IRS considers taxing work perks like food, gym memberships

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The IRS taxes compensation. It's hard to believe it has taken them this long to realize that hundreds (or thousands) of dollars in free food and perks a month is compensation.

> The IRS taxes compensation. source? genuinely curious if those words are written somewhere. It would seem to me that the IRS should tax income, specifically income that I can use to pay taxes (or which can reasonably and reliably be converted into something that I can use to pay taxes). I'd love to send 40% of last week's corporate-paid lunch to the IRS but my guess is they wouldn't accept it.

Perhaps you could you all the income you save from not having to buy lunch to pay said taxes.

Re: IRS considers taxing work perks like food, gym memberships

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post #14
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The IRS taxes compensation. It's hard to believe it has taken them this long to realize that hundreds (or thousands) of dollars in free food and perks a month is compensation.

> The IRS taxes compensation. source? genuinely curious if those words are written somewhere. It would seem to me that the IRS should tax income, specifically income that I can use to pay taxes (or which can reasonably and reliably be converted into something that I can use to pay taxes). I'd love to send 40% of last week's corporate-paid lunch to the IRS but my guess is they wouldn't accept it.

source? genuinely curious if those words are written somewhere.

IRS Publication 525 -- "In most cases, you must include in gross income everything you receive in payment for personal services. In addition to wages, salaries, commissions, fees, and tips, this includes other forms of compensation such as fringe benefits and stock options."

It would seem to me that the IRS should tax income, specifically income that I can use to pay taxes (or which can reasonably and reliably be converted into something that I can use to pay taxes).

I'd love to send 40% of last week's corporate-paid lunch to the IRS but my guess is they wouldn't accept it.

You can't send the IRS 40% of a fully paid vacation to Hawaii, including use of the corporate jet either. Should companies be able to give their employees such vacations without out the employee being required to pay taxes on the value?

Think about what incentives that would create -- individuals could evade taxes altogether by simply negotiating with their employer to provide whatever goods and services they wished to consume rather than money. And because such benefits wouldn't make up part of the AGI the individual would also be eligible for government social programs.

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