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Fog Creek's Intern Hiring Process

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Re: Fog Creek's Intern Hiring Process

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As someone who did a summer internship last year at an amazing SF company, the pay-scale at fogcreek sounds pretty competitive (read amazing). $6,000 a month comes to a shade less than $40/hour. Bear in mind that most full time students work only in summers so although considerable federal tax is deducted from this amount, the intern is likely to receive most of it back when filing taxes next year. Also, catered lunc…

Google and Facebook both hire their interns on exempt positions, so they aren't hourly. They also pay around $6800-$7000/mo, not including benefits.

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This sounds like a great program, I just wish it was offered year-round. Even though I think Northeastern University and Waterloo are the only schools with a completely integrated, well defined Co-op program, it seems like its a growing trend. I'd assume having year round interns and a continuous recruitment process would be less disruptive to the team's work velocity and give you a bit bigger reach for students too.…

I didn't attend the Rochester Institute of Technology, but friends of mine who go there tell me that co-ops are a mandatory part of the CS program there.

Re: Fog Creek's Intern Hiring Process

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Can't they atleast hire one person that didn't luck out by being born in a rich/middle class american family to go to ivy league universities.

What is such complicated product that Fog Creek makes that it needs graduates from top 10 universities? Serious question.

Re: Fog Creek's Intern Hiring Process

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On behalf of a student who just finished up the internship search: Companies/recruiters, please note the advice put forth here.

A couple of points I'd like to touch on:

* Be sure to provide your interns with a ton of guidance, and promote this in during your recruitment process. Many of my fellow students are turned off by the bigger companies since they feel like they won't be able to make an impact. As a smaller company, this is your ace in the hole. Use it to your advantage.

* Personally, exploding offers leave a bad taste in my mouth. Everyone knows how long the recruitment process takes, and you should give the intern the common courtesy to make an informed decision. The last thing you want is a disgruntled intern on your payroll for a few months.

* You should consider internships as an investment. Build a relationship with your intern, and it will pay numerous dividends in the long run. They might return for a full-time position or they may refer a friend that they respect. A good way to support your intern during the school year is to sponsor a hackathon or an interview workshop at their school. This gets you face-to-face with some of the most motivated hackers at any school, where you can begin the courting process.

Just some quick thoughts from the student's side of the table.

Re: Fog Creek's Intern Hiring Process

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Does anyone know how much one would make in a Finance Internship at a hedge-fund, prop firm and investment bank?

I think an internship in a top tier bank in London pays about 3000 pounds/month for a summer analyst and 5000 pounds/month. My data are outdated though, maybe the salaries have gone down after the crisis, but I doubt it and would rather think they decreased the number of interns.

Re: Fog Creek's Intern Hiring Process

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I have to say the pay is by no way "spoiling". It is no where near the top tier pay (for interns) seen in the industry.

It's not that far off the top tier pay for tech companies. Glassdoor compiled their list for 2014, and it's not too inaccurate [1]. Speaking from personal experience, the numbers for SWE undergrads for some of the companies on the list this year:

Palantir - 7,500 - 1,200 for housing if you choose

Facebook - 6,200 + free housing

Salesforce - Varies per year, 34.50/hr for rising junior, housing.

Cisco - 22/hr

Quora and Dropbox are both missing from this list but they both have higher salaries than Palantir, but not by too much.

[1] http://www.glassdoor.com/blog/25-highest-paying-companies-in...

Re: Fog Creek's Intern Hiring Process

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post #18

This sounds like a great program, I just wish it was offered year-round. Even though I think Northeastern University and Waterloo are the only schools with a completely integrated, well defined Co-op program, it seems like its a growing trend. I'd assume having year round interns and a continuous recruitment process would be less disruptive to the team's work velocity and give you a bit bigger reach for students too.…

At my university, we get a lot of co-ops because of the engineering nature of majority of the students. I've found that engineering companies that make physical things are more likely to do co-ops and companies that focus on a completely coded product/companies that have a traditionally CS focus tend to do interns. Just my experience here though.

Re: Fog Creek's Intern Hiring Process

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Can't they atleast hire one person that didn't luck out by being born in a rich/middle class american family to go to ivy league universities. What is such complicated product that Fog Creek makes that it needs graduates from top 10 universities? Serious question.

Not that I went to anything approaching an Ivy League school, but I understand why they limited their search to that subset. They are more likely to find good matches, and given the low amount of time they probably allocated to this, it wouldn't make sense to canvas hundreds of universities.

I doubt that they met all of their applications at the Job fairs, and even if they did, it appears that Fog Creek also attended the SBU CS Fair (which is decidedly not an Ivy League).

Re: Fog Creek's Intern Hiring Process

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Can't they atleast hire one person that didn't luck out by being born in a rich/middle class american family to go to ivy league universities. What is such complicated product that Fog Creek makes that it needs graduates from top 10 universities? Serious question.

Jews that went to Ivy League schools tend to hire other jews that go to Ivy League schools
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