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When Everyone Wants To Watch 'House Of Cards,' Who Pays?

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Re: When Everyone Wants To Watch 'House Of Cards,' Who Pays?

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If Netflix is using Amazon Web Services to run its streaming operations, then how did Netflix even get involved in this bandwidth issue? Isn't that included in the bill they pay to Amazon?

They don't use Amazon for streaming videos.

I think they do: http://aws.amazon.com/solutions/case-studies/netflix/

Re: When Everyone Wants To Watch 'House Of Cards,' Who Pays?

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Ugh, is this even a question anywhere except in the US? The ISP should be paying for it because that is literally the service they are suppose to be providing, it's the reason consumers are giving them money. In what other industry can you accept payment for a service and then try to make a legitimate claim that you then don't have to provide that service or maintain the infrastructure you are selling? It's fucking n…

Not to mention the fact that the ISPs got $200 billion from the gov't in order to provide said infrastructure.

http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/2007/pulpit_20070810_0026...

Re: When Everyone Wants To Watch 'House Of Cards,' Who Pays?

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They don't use Amazon for streaming videos.

I think they do: http://aws.amazon.com/solutions/case-studies/netflix/

The whole system runs on AWS but most videos are watched in the last mile from edge caching hosted closer to the viewer.

Bandwidth providers should be happy companies want to edge cache and take strain off the larger network and provide better customer experiences.

Re: When Everyone Wants To Watch 'House Of Cards,' Who Pays?

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Ugh, is this even a question anywhere except in the US? The ISP should be paying for it because that is literally the service they are suppose to be providing, it's the reason consumers are giving them money. In what other industry can you accept payment for a service and then try to make a legitimate claim that you then don't have to provide that service or maintain the infrastructure you are selling? It's fucking n…

> When the so called "free market" fails

Anyone who blames US Internet issues (or pretty much any other issue in the US) should just go and try to start a competing business and see what happens. I think you'd find that "free" is one of the last words you'd use to describe the industry.

Re: When Everyone Wants To Watch 'House Of Cards,' Who Pays?

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They don't use Amazon for streaming videos.

I think they do: http://aws.amazon.com/solutions/case-studies/netflix/

no. Netflix uses aws for serving html, and other relatively low bandwidth content. But media bits are not served from aws.

Re: When Everyone Wants To Watch 'House Of Cards,' Who Pays?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the homeowner owns the last mile, then they become responsible for maintenance, ensuring they comply with FCC and other regulations, and negotiating terms of interconnection. Obviously, that's out of reach of most of the population, so homeowners don't own the last mile.

I'm sure there are companies who would provide that service without requiring ownership

Kind of like automobiles, which are widely owned by private individuals.

Re: When Everyone Wants To Watch 'House Of Cards,' Who Pays?

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They don't use Amazon for streaming videos.

I think they do: http://aws.amazon.com/solutions/case-studies/netflix/

From what I can tell, edge caching occurs on AWS as well.

http://techblog.netflix.com/2013/06/announcing-zuul-edge-ser...

http://techblog.netflix.com/2012/01/ephemeral-volatile-cachi...

Re: When Everyone Wants To Watch 'House Of Cards,' Who Pays?

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Ugh, is this even a question anywhere except in the US? The ISP should be paying for it because that is literally the service they are suppose to be providing, it's the reason consumers are giving them money. In what other industry can you accept payment for a service and then try to make a legitimate claim that you then don't have to provide that service or maintain the infrastructure you are selling? It's fucking n…

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Re: When Everyone Wants To Watch 'House Of Cards,' Who Pays?

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I've always seen local governments as the root cause of "last mile" providers' ability to turn their customers into the product. Why haven't elected officials made more stringent demands upon the companies given monopoly (or at best duopoly) rights to convey bits to and from my home? I have a condo in Chicago and was delighted to learn that a company was offering our building last mile connectivity via microwave alon…

A friend of mine lives in a large apartment building next to the Loop in Chicago. The building was unable to negotiate a competitive plan so they went with satellite. Clearly the local market has failed when satellite offers a better package.
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