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Who Needs a Boss?

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Re: Who Needs a Boss?

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I, for one, need a boss. I don't necessarily need that person to tell me what to do, but I do need someone to remind me that the things that I do, whatever they may be, should be in the best interests of our company and its revenue stream. And I need someone to give me positive and negative feedback on my work, so I can improve my own productivity.

What I really don't need is owners that are not personally involved in the business, yet can somehow tell those who are involved how to operate. Those guys are the ones that merge sick leave with vacation, slice off 6 days from the total, and then pay themselves an extra dividend.

Re: Who Needs a Boss?

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I, for one, need a boss. I don't necessarily need that person to tell me what to do, but I do need someone to remind me that the things that I do, whatever they may be, should be in the best interests of our company and its revenue stream. And I need someone to give me positive and negative feedback on my work, so I can improve my own productivity. What I really don't need is owners that are not personally involved i…

> I, for one, need a boss. I don't necessarily need that person to tell me what to do, but I do need someone to remind me that the things that I do, whatever they may be, should be in the best interests of our company and its revenue stream. And I need someone to give me positive and negative feedback on my work, so I can improve my own productivity.

Why can't coworkers do that?

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post #20

>Meanwhile, credit unions — another form of cooperative — face stringent regulations on business lending. This was thrown as an aside, but I'm wondering what they exactly mean by that. What are these regulations? Are they government imposed or member imposed? What exactly do the regulations say? I wish the article didn't just throw out "there's regulations" without explaining what said regulations are and how they ef…

It's government imposed. Start here: http://www.ncua.gov/Resources/CUs/Dev/Pages/Start.aspx

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A worker co-operative seems like the ideal corporate structure for the typical consulting software shop. It can be set up to be very corporate-like or it can be set up as a loose group of freelancers who pooled together to share a health insurance plan, or anything in between.

http://techworker.coop/

very cool - does anyone know if there is something similar for the UK? I would love to know more.

Re: Who Needs a Boss?

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's true that coops are less likely to choose to respond to change by radical workforce reductions, but that's rather the point -- the "need" for such a response isn't an objective fact of circumstance, it's a particular valance of the interest of equity owners vs. those of workers. When the equity owners are the workers, those interests are balanced differently.

It is certainly true that workforce reduction is just one possibility, but what I still wonder is when coops work and when they don't. Somehow it seems to me that they only work when the business is not too scalable, but profit is directly related to work input.

> I still wonder is when coops work and when they don't

I haven't read it yet, but this might be of use.

http://www.geo.coop/story/why-some-worker-co-ops-succeed-whi...

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Unfortunate Title. It's worth looking at some counter-examples, as Capital Structure (often) has precious little to do with management structure. Most non profits mimic the for-profit in organizational structure (ie, run by a CEO, with a staff of VPs...). On the other hand, many for-profit partnerships are quite flat and more egalitarian than their corporate cousins. Also, many co-ops still have a CEO (eg: REI, the o…

REI is a purchaser coop, not a labor coop. Not at all the same thing.

If by purchaser you mean consumer (not producer), yes. Many types of org structures use hier-archical managaement, independent of the capital structure (legal strucure). That's my point. Even in the co-op space there are multiple structures that don't imply everything is flat-org.

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A worker co-operative seems like the ideal corporate structure for the typical consulting software shop. It can be set up to be very corporate-like or it can be set up as a loose group of freelancers who pooled together to share a health insurance plan, or anything in between.

My company (http://nomad.coop/) operates in a similar fashion. We all work under the Nomad umbrella, are equal partners in the company (a requirement for being a coop) and work together on freelance projects as we need to. We've been together for around four years and it's worked incredibly well for us.

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Worker-owned coops are the kind of Communism that a capitalist can really get behind. Good show. Also, Arizmendi Bakery is in fact delicious.

Except in communism it'd be the community (or, commune) that'd own the business. Since this is worker-owned, it's closer to syndicalism than communism (or socialism).

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While I think co-ops can work very well in some cases, I wonder how well they cope with significant change for the worse in their environment. If you need to lose a third of the workforce suddenly, can a co-op decide on that kind of thing or will it lead to some unproductive compromise, or even worse, denial?

A worker coop would strive hard to avoid taking that action. In NA corps, this is among the first actions to take. The actual historical case, I reference is Mondragon, who has virtually no layoffs in its entire history.

What they do is shift workers from non performing sectors to performing ones.

They have economic cycles in Spain, and within the org itself, like the rest of the world but they deal with it more equitably.

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