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Re: Tor: Directly connecting users from Turkey

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It's amazing what humans beings will do for information. This reminds me of a time in 2007 where my friend was a teacher at an elementary school. The school blocked MySpace and Facebook to stop the students from visiting those sites. Somehow, the students figured out how to use proxies and get around the firewalls and what ended up happening is that the teachers were the only ones who couldn't figure out how to get a…

I remember being one of these kids. My high school put in a transparent squid-based filter for all HTTP content in my second year, and all traffic going to ports 80 and 443 went through it. They blocked all UDP traffic (even internal to the school, and all outbound TCP traffic except to ports 80, 443... and port 21, which the Yearbook people needed to upload files somewhere. Once I realized that the traffic on port 2…

My school did filtering on port 80 but allowed all TCP traffic out on port 443 so I just ran SSH there. I changed schools and it seems as though they did further filtering on packets (They close connections of 443 if the server sends data first - like happens with SSH), after some testing I managed to get OpenVPN using TCP on port 443 running great.

Re: Tor: Directly connecting users from Turkey

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I guess what they are going to do when Turkish government will buy some advanced DPI hardware with SVM (Support Vector Machines) which is capable of blocking TOR

Doesn't TOR look like other encrypted traffic, specifically to avoid detection methods like this?

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A bit OT, but does anyone know what happened in Australia to cause this: https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=userstats-re...

There was a huge increase in global usage at that time: https://metrics.torproject.org/users.html?graph=userstats-re...

Re: Tor: Directly connecting users from Turkey

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post #12

It's amazing what humans beings will do for information. This reminds me of a time in 2007 where my friend was a teacher at an elementary school. The school blocked MySpace and Facebook to stop the students from visiting those sites. Somehow, the students figured out how to use proxies and get around the firewalls and what ended up happening is that the teachers were the only ones who couldn't figure out how to get a…

What's more amazing is why human beings try to block information in the first place, at least in places where its unnecessary, even for their own cause. For instance, the Indian IT firm Infosys (many other similar companies in India too), block use of personal email, social networking sites etc. which I personally find pointless but probably can be argued about. But, what surprises me is they also have policies in place to not provide internet connectivity to software developer recruits who are new grads. And, these developers are provided internet access only after a few months and only if they obtain an approval from their manager that their work requires them to have internet access.

Re: Tor: Directly connecting users from Turkey

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I guess what they are going to do when Turkish government will buy some advanced DPI hardware with SVM (Support Vector Machines) which is capable of blocking TOR

Doesn't TOR look like other encrypted traffic, specifically to avoid detection methods like this?

TOR is effectively blocked in China, the only way to use it there is to setup a private obfsproxy somewhere abroad, but I believe it's beyond an average user skills.

Re: Tor: Directly connecting users from Turkey

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My biggest fear is once dictatorships/governments become aware of the ability to sidestep their bans, they'll begin blocking websites such as torproject.org. Keep in mind this traffic spike is because people who don't normally use Tor, started using it (i.e. they downloaded it). At that point I think we'll begin to see an arms race between the public and government which might finally bring us to decentralization of the Internet - or complete censorship.

Re: Tor: Directly connecting users from Turkey

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Too bad Twitter can't put a server at 140.140.140.140

I know you're joking because of the twitter 140 character limit but accessing twitter directly by IP address won't help much. The govt can easily block a specific IP. So knowing the IP helps when DNS is down but, in the long run, it's not too helpful when someone is trying to block a site.
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