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Tamil Nadu state departments asked to switch over to open source software

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Re: Tamil Nadu state departments asked to switch over to open source software

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Not many people know this but Linux is already quite popular in the South (esp. in schools and government offices)

In particular, the Department of General Education of the state of Kerala (more than 12,000 schools, about 6 million students, and about 200,000 teachers [1]) heavily promotes FOSS software both as a medium of teaching (all subjects, not just ICT) and as a tool for administration. This initiative is called the "IT@School Project" [2], and they develop and use their own customized version of Ubuntu (called "IT@School GNU/Linux" [3]) in all their schools. They do quite a bit of customization to adapt available FOSS software to the needs of their audience (which is drawn from all strata of society; this is (almost) free and compulsory education provided by the state).

The project uses customized FOSS software, such as Dr. Geo, Rasmol, K-Tech lab, Geogebra, Chemtool, and Kalcium [4], to teach various subjects. They also have ICT as a separate subject starting from Class 4 (9-year olds). As part of this, they start teaching programming (in Python, and using games, graphics, and other age-appropriate methods, and starting very gently) from Class 4. (They also teach a lot of other stuff.)

The project implements a lot of e-governance programs using FOSS software. This includes [4]:

1. A single-window admission system for higher-secondary education

2. Computerization of the program of providing free lunch in schools

3. Online transfer and posting of teachers

4. Software for administering the state's annual Youth Festival (Arts competitions. Around 10,000 participants this year, often touted as Asia's largest such event.)

5. ERP software for arts festivals at the school level.

6. Software for administering scholarships

7. Centralised online textbook intend system

8. Payroll administration for teachers and other staff in the department

9. Software for monitoring physical fitness programmes in schools

(In case you are wondering: every school is provided a (paid-for) broadband connection as well.)

They estimate that the shift to FOSS has saved the state quite a bit of money already [5]:

"The Project has supplied thousands of computers and laptops to schools in the state. about 50,000 computers to schools. The proprietary OS and other application software come with a price tag of about Rs. 10,000/- per PC. By deploying Free Software based Operating System and applications instead of Proprietary software , IT@School Project is able to save an amount of Rs.11 Crores (Rs. 110 million) each year. Also the Educational content like interactive multimedia CDs are now being developed on free software platform, resulting in a savings of Rs. 75 lakhs (Rs. 7.5 million). The examination software which was developed using free software has effected in a savings of about Rs. 25 lakhs (Rs. 2.5 millon)."

[1] https://www.itschool.gov.in/glance.php

[2] https://www.itschool.gov.in/

[3] https://www.itschool.gov.in/downloads.php

[4] https://www.itschool.gov.in/activities.php

[5] https://www.itschool.gov.in/otherprograms.php#6

(Edit: Minor fixes, formatting.)

Re: Tamil Nadu state departments asked to switch over to open source software

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post #11

Whenever these stories appear it seems impossible to tell if they're genuine or just trolling Microsoft to try to get a better deal.

Yes. You'd think that they would have moved to open source already if they could. Impending end of support for XP was no secret nor unexpected.

Re: Tamil Nadu state departments asked to switch over to open source software

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post #21
post #3

Not many people know this but Linux is already quite popular in the South (esp. in schools and government offices)

In particular, the Department of General Education of the state of Kerala (more than 12,000 schools, about 6 million students, and about 200,000 teachers [1]) heavily promotes FOSS software both as a medium of teaching (all subjects, not just ICT) and as a tool for administration. This initiative is called the "IT@School Project" [2], and they develop and use their own customized version of Ubuntu (called "IT@School…

Dr. Geo! - http://www.drgeo.eu/home. Go (Pharo) Smalltalk!

Re: Tamil Nadu state departments asked to switch over to open source software

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OSS, the order said, “is almost free of virus. Hence loss of information, hacking, phishing can be prevented… there is no need to spend on expensive anti virus software.” I disagree with that statement.

The general threat model for Linux systems is outdated installations with extant security holes, often remotely exploitable. This is in contrast with Windows in which a huge class of exploits are by way of content placed by users on their own systems, more often technically trojans than viruses.

This isn't to say that Linux is wholly immune to security exploits. It's not. But it's hugely more manageable and securable than Windows is, even in more recent versions. Which, though they've addressed much of the problem, still leave huge classes of vulnerabilities open.

The ability to configure minimal systems on Linux (principle of least privilege) with only the software and services required for functionality helps hugely in this.

Re: Tamil Nadu state departments asked to switch over to open source software

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Having spent some time in India dealing with scattered govt. Windows infrastructure, this is amazing news. This may also open up many new opportunities in computer education and literacy which is very deficient in the country. I really hope this switch does happen.

Some of the best hackers I know are in India, and they don't use Microsoft products... I'm talking truly gifted people. I myself am a BSD fanatic, but I recommend Linux based systems to all of my Windows using friends.

This might be because you are an Indian and the only hackers you know are Indian.

Re: Tamil Nadu state departments asked to switch over to open source software

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Hope "may" changes to "will" in coming future . Not just state departments but infrastructure services here use windows , e.g.: metro stations , ATM machines . Switch can help to save money which can be used in other developments much needed for the society without comprising efficiency of governance.

I've seen ATM's being serviced/refilled - one can usually spot a "tower" PC in there. When an ATM app crashes the underlying PC operating system GUI is visible - with the standard screen background.

OTOH my has good online services, usage pattern monitoring, two-factor authentication etc. With this bank I've never had a single online transaction as much as hang or go wrong in the past 10 years. When I travel I sometimes get a call to verify the transaction I've just made at an ATM.

So the only conclusion I can draw is that the bank finds it easier to monitor/control things from their data center. They probably consider all terminals as vulnerable and operate from that premise.

Re: Tamil Nadu state departments asked to switch over to open source software

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post #5

Aside from the city of Munich, are their any other governments that are using Linux as their main operating system?

The schools in Kerala, India use only Linux OS.

Kerela has 100% literacy rate , not so true for the rest of the country where the majority live in villages. It's tough to even get these kids to come out and study.

Even urban city engineering schools use pen , paper and drawing abilities of a left brained person for grading.

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