The last thing I want to see is internet in the cockpit. What hasn't been hacked over the last few years?
Aviation is stuck in the 60s – a reflection on MH 370
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Re: Aviation is stuck in the 60s – a reflection on MH 370
#22The moment we saw bunch of aviation articles on HN and that plane disappears. Coincident?
Re: Aviation is stuck in the 60s – a reflection on MH 370
#23The moment we saw bunch of aviation articles on HN and that plane disappears. Coincidence?
Re: Aviation is stuck in the 60s – a reflection on MH 370
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the US, most planes do have GPS, and it will be a requirement by 2020. For those interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_dependent_surveillanc...
ADSB is a whole new can of worms [0] just waiting for people to exploit… [0]: http://dangerousprototypes.com/2013/02/28/defcon-20-renderma...
Yes the potential for abuse in any of these sensitive systems is why I think it's understandable we're moving slowly. We don't want to fuck up. The Hacker Way of “Move fast and break things” isn't always realistic.
Re: Aviation is stuck in the 60s – a reflection on MH 370
#25Aviation is stuck in the 60s because if it wasn't airliner stuff would all be automatic.
Re: Aviation is stuck in the 60s – a reflection on MH 370
#26Most modern airliners have satellite links (data and voice) with their dispatch centers. They also use the ACARS system to send and receive clearances (they can acknowledge by pushing a button). The old SELCAL+HF radio is no longer in use, except for backup. Planes have GPS trackers. Not only their company knows where they are, the control center can too. In the case of the north atlantic track system, air control ke…
The author of the article is apparently so uninformed that not only does he realize that ACARS is available, but that is uses the same "awful, really awful" HF radio.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Frequency_Data_Link
It's actually a brilliant system, with network of transmit and receive sites its like globally available text messaging for pilots.
Also, unless the pilot was using atrocious equipment I can't see why HF radio would sound awful. I use my HF radio almost daily and don't have any complaints. I can legally listen to air traffic controllers on HF with no problem as well. The equipment I have is far, far inferior to that in most commercial airliners.
Re: Aviation is stuck in the 60s – a reflection on MH 370
#27Hopefully the author is reading this, as I have some structural comments.
First, I agree with your thesis. In fact, I'd argue General Aviation is stuck in the 1950s. Lots of reasons for that, including the cost of insurance.
Second, I had a hard time reading this, as you seem to lack the ability to form cohesive paragraphs. Very sorry to have to tell you, but I figured somebody should. Nobody can read a big wall of text where each paragraph is trying to say several different things at the same time.
Best of luck in future drafts.
Re: Aviation is stuck in the 60s – a reflection on MH 370
#28It may be stuck in the 60's but HF radios work sure you can create an automated dispatch system on an iPad. How do you authenticate it? how do you tell if its not working? does it fail safe? Making safe software is hard, and well beyond the wit of your standard programmer. After all, can you gaurentee your software when the CPU is at 100%? can you say with certainty what happens when your CPU is hammered by all the i…
actually, HF radios with digital, encrypted & authenticated communication work GPS works, too internet safe for business fliers but not the pilot? please. it doesnt mean the whole plane relies on internet. those 3 should probably be added to current planes, regardless. i'm not sure why you think there is a single system with a "CPU" in a plane either. there's multiple independent systems - some electronic, some analo…
I think you're missing point. For a system to be allowed on a passenger plane, it must be certified.
That means that it has to go through actual real QA (something foreign to modern Software science.)
You want to put in a glonass receiver? sure, but it has to operate independently of the GPS system, and it cannot replace any other navigation system unless the FAA allow it.
the point is each system must be robust (i mean really robust) and able to work past the extremes independently.
Re: Aviation is stuck in the 60s – a reflection on MH 370
#29Most modern airliners have satellite links (data and voice) with their dispatch centers. They also use the ACARS system to send and receive clearances (they can acknowledge by pushing a button). The old SELCAL+HF radio is no longer in use, except for backup. Planes have GPS trackers. Not only their company knows where they are, the control center can too. In the case of the north atlantic track system, air control ke…
And pilot aids that appear to provide more information than they actually do can do more harm than good. If pilots take suicidal risks based on dubious information from "real-time" weather updates specifically designed for pilots[1], just imagine what would happen if consumer-grade iPad "real-time" weather apps found their way into the commercial cockpit.
[1]http://www.maxtrescott.com/max_trescott_on_general_a/2012/06...
Re: Aviation is stuck in the 60s – a reflection on MH 370
#30Most modern airliners have satellite links (data and voice) with their dispatch centers. They also use the ACARS system to send and receive clearances (they can acknowledge by pushing a button). The old SELCAL+HF radio is no longer in use, except for backup. Planes have GPS trackers. Not only their company knows where they are, the control center can too. In the case of the north atlantic track system, air control ke…
> I just fail to see the point of this post.
Haven't you read about the missing aircraft?
Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 is a missing international passenger flight operated by a Boeing 777-200ER aircraft: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_370
At least two of the passengers were travelling using false identities (stolen passports, tickets bought at the same time).
Edit: last known position: http://www.flightradar24.com/2014-03-07/16:46/12x/MAS370/2d8...