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How Fat May Hurt the Brain, and How Exercise May Help

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Re: How Fat May Hurt the Brain, and How Exercise May Help

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I can think of very smart people who could be classified as overweight of obese, such as Gabe Newell, Linus Torvalds, or Steve Wozniak - so that makes me a bit suspicious. On this topic though, I do notice a significant drop in cognitive ability or "mental sharpness" from eating certain foods which have a higher GI. Have been experimenting with this lately, and I had wondered why after lunch time I wasn't able to foc…

You're conflating success with intelligence. It is undeniable that Nowell, Torvalds, and Wozniak are all very successful people, what is unclear is how intelligent they are or if their success is primary due to their intelligence.

There's an awful lot of very intelligent people who never did anything with their life, and conversely there are a lot of perfectly average people who have done ground breaking things.

Re: How Fat May Hurt the Brain, and How Exercise May Help

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Yeah well it's not like I love being fat. We all know fat is bad, and I wish I had less of it, but it's not like my adipose is going to go away by scaring it with more bad news about why it sucks to be fat. Once you're fat, not being fat anymore is a really hard problem, which is why fat people aren't really known for eventually being skinny some day again, but there's a high prevalence of skinny people who once were fat eventually getting fat again. I've been fighting my weight for near a decade now, and I used to be a pretty athletic individual in my 20's.

I don't think skinny people understand. Maintaining weight feels like starvation to fat people, for at least some of them, like me. If you only eat enough food to just maintain your weight it hurts just as much as dieting. That will probably never change for us, even if we lose a lot of weight (and I have lost a lot of weight). So fat people have to be on painful diets the rest of their lives, just to not get fatter.

So my advice to young people is, don't get fat. If you're already fat, you're pretty much fucked.

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Yeah well it's not like I love being fat. We all know fat is bad, and I wish I had less of it, but it's not like my adipose is going to go away by scaring it with more bad news about why it sucks to be fat. Once you're fat, not being fat anymore is a really hard problem, which is why fat people aren't really known for eventually being skinny some day again, but there's a high prevalence of skinny people who once were…

> If you're already fat, you're pretty much fucked.

That's not true, and that's a mentality that justifies self-destructive behavior. I used to be overweight but turned it around a few years ago, and in my case it boiled down to fixing some incredibly unhealthy habits

1) better sleeping habits. I used to go to sleep at 3-4 AM, now I force myself off of electronics by midnight and read a book or write until I doze off. Nowadays, when I first get up in the morning, I roll out of bed and do some pushups to avoid the crawl back to bed.

2) better eating habits. Eating breakfast is probably the best thing you can do for your diet. I found that I was eating much more later in the night, so as I shifted my sleeping pattern I also shifted my eating pattern (eating much more at breakfast and lunch and much less at dinner).

3) better exercise. It started with simple things: going to the grocery store, rather than waiting for the closest parking spot, I would park at the far end of the lot and walk the extra N steps; after a few months, I purchased a collapsable cart and just walked the mile from my house to the store. And bit by bit I would try to increase activity.

Obviously everyone's experience is different, but please don't propagate the idea that overweight people can't lose weight

Re: How Fat May Hurt the Brain, and How Exercise May Help

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Yeah well it's not like I love being fat. We all know fat is bad, and I wish I had less of it, but it's not like my adipose is going to go away by scaring it with more bad news about why it sucks to be fat. Once you're fat, not being fat anymore is a really hard problem, which is why fat people aren't really known for eventually being skinny some day again, but there's a high prevalence of skinny people who once were…

And for skinny people trying to gain weight it's the exact opposite. Trying to eat at a 500 calorie surplus feels like you're constantly full to the point of discomfort, you shit 3 times a day and you're spending about 2 hours a day just eating, such an awful waste of time.

Re: How Fat May Hurt the Brain, and How Exercise May Help

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Yeah well it's not like I love being fat. We all know fat is bad, and I wish I had less of it, but it's not like my adipose is going to go away by scaring it with more bad news about why it sucks to be fat. Once you're fat, not being fat anymore is a really hard problem, which is why fat people aren't really known for eventually being skinny some day again, but there's a high prevalence of skinny people who once were…

It's a habit thing, at least for me.

If I eat litle for a prolonged time eventually I will feel full whenever I eat a normal amount. Same go's for me in the other direction.

However I agree with you to some extent. Once you have been fat once the time to get used to larger food amounts is significantly reduced.

Re: How Fat May Hurt the Brain, and How Exercise May Help

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Yeah well it's not like I love being fat. We all know fat is bad, and I wish I had less of it, but it's not like my adipose is going to go away by scaring it with more bad news about why it sucks to be fat. Once you're fat, not being fat anymore is a really hard problem, which is why fat people aren't really known for eventually being skinny some day again, but there's a high prevalence of skinny people who once were…

Put it this way, at least you have a fucking choice.

Sincerely, a short guy.

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