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Teen leaks unreleased HTC One successor, and HTC isn't happy

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Re: Teen leaks unreleased HTC One successor, and HTC isn't happy

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Post by chris_mahan »

angryasian wrote: post #18
chris_mahan wrote: post #10

HTC, if you read this: I bought the HTC Droid when it came out (4 years ago, something like that) and I replaced it with a HTC Droid LTE (and one for my wife too). Please don't do this sort of stupid stuff. I can't in good conscience buy another phone from your company, ever, unless you apologize to the boy, his family, and anyone you went after for leaking the info (reinstate the job of anyone fired over that). For…

Your reply reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Judge Snyder lets Bart out of any kind of personal responsibility under the "Boys will be boys" rule. I'm sorry but I don't agree. People should be held responsible for their actions and perform their job duties to what is expected. This child's parent should absolutely be held responsible. We live in a society that wants to take no responsibly and sue everyone and…

Then why insult the kid?

Re: Teen leaks unreleased HTC One successor, and HTC isn't happy

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Post by Haywain »

chris_mahan wrote: post #14
bcguy390 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The real owner of the phone is the one that is going to be in trouble not the kid. However the article did say that neither of the kid's parents work at HTC which most likely means he stole the phone from somewhere. He deserves everything he has coming to him.

He's a kid. He might have stolen the phone, or it might have been given to him by someone at his school, or he might have found it on the street, on a park bench, or at a public library. We just don't know. "most likely stole the phone" isn't a true statement. He's a kid. Is this how we treat children in this day and age? Is this the civilized thing to do? I don't think so. Anyway, HTC could simply have said: "Thank…

While I think it could have been handled better, the idea of rewarding people who leak sensitive information (especially for a company like HTC, who is struggling for relevance on the brink of collapse) about flagship devices and IP is absolutely ridiculous.

Was it mind-boggling absurd that a "Communications Manager" at said company threatened and berated a kid in a public forum? Undeniably so. It's so blatantly wrong that I sit here, gobsmacked that people still say these kinds of things[0] on Twitter and then think they can deny it ever happened after they delete it.

But, really, you're asking HTC to roll out a red carpet for this kid and entice future leakers to hold company secrets hostage for prizes in the future...

[0] Check the screenshots at the bottom: http://ausdroid.net/2014/03/03/all-new-htc-one-appears-in-12...

Re: Teen leaks unreleased HTC One successor, and HTC isn't happy

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Post by chris_mahan »

gph wrote: post #19
chris_mahan wrote: post #10

HTC, if you read this: I bought the HTC Droid when it came out (4 years ago, something like that) and I replaced it with a HTC Droid LTE (and one for my wife too). Please don't do this sort of stupid stuff. I can't in good conscience buy another phone from your company, ever, unless you apologize to the boy, his family, and anyone you went after for leaking the info (reinstate the job of anyone fired over that). For…

Sure one question; Do you think you're little rant is more important to them than guarding their IP and controlling the release of their products? Because it isn't. And I can't seriously believe you are telling HTC to apologize. The tweets, though misguided, are barely threatening. And whoever works for the company that the kid knows deserves to get fired. They shouldn't have let the phone come into anyone else's pos…

Oh, you bet. The first rule of business is "the customer's always right."

And I fall squarely in their definition of "the customer".

Re: Teen leaks unreleased HTC One successor, and HTC isn't happy

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Post by gph »

chris_mahan wrote: post #21
angryasian wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your reply reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Judge Snyder lets Bart out of any kind of personal responsibility under the "Boys will be boys" rule. I'm sorry but I don't agree. People should be held responsible for their actions and perform their job duties to what is expected. This child's parent should absolutely be held responsible. We live in a society that wants to take no responsibly and sue everyone and…

Then why insult the kid?

What insult? Is there more to the story than the article is letting on? Because there is nothing in that article even close to an insult.

Re: Teen leaks unreleased HTC One successor, and HTC isn't happy

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Post by gph »

chris_mahan wrote: post #24
gph wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure one question; Do you think you're little rant is more important to them than guarding their IP and controlling the release of their products? Because it isn't. And I can't seriously believe you are telling HTC to apologize. The tweets, though misguided, are barely threatening. And whoever works for the company that the kid knows deserves to get fired. They shouldn't have let the phone come into anyone else's pos…

Oh, you bet. The first rule of business is "the customer's always right." And I fall squarely in their definition of "the customer".

That's a mindlessly simplistic view of it. Do you seriously think HTC corporate hierarchy is going to change their policy on protecting IP and apologize to a person who unlawfully disseminated information on their products just to please the 10's of people that might be outraged over this?

You can't please all the people all the time. Sometimes the customer is an idiot not worth your time.

Re: Teen leaks unreleased HTC One successor, and HTC isn't happy

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Post by BrandonRead »

chris_mahan wrote: post #14
bcguy390 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The real owner of the phone is the one that is going to be in trouble not the kid. However the article did say that neither of the kid's parents work at HTC which most likely means he stole the phone from somewhere. He deserves everything he has coming to him.

He's a kid. He might have stolen the phone, or it might have been given to him by someone at his school, or he might have found it on the street, on a park bench, or at a public library. We just don't know. "most likely stole the phone" isn't a true statement. He's a kid. Is this how we treat children in this day and age? Is this the civilized thing to do? I don't think so. Anyway, HTC could simply have said: "Thank…

I completely agree with the sentiments expressed in your response. Just because we live in a society where massive technology corporations need to maintain a positive image and keep release cycles under wraps does not mean this kid should be treated like a criminal. I would rather smartphones not even exist if this is the way we are going to treat people. #buildingARocketAndLeaving

Re: Teen leaks unreleased HTC One successor, and HTC isn't happy

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Post by gph »

chris_mahan wrote: post #20
gagaga wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How did they publicly insult him?

"It's gonna be a bad week for you my friend." If someone told me that, I'd feel absolutely terrible inside. And that is the definition of an insult. Since they said that on twitter, that fits the "publicly" label don't you think?

>If someone told me that, I'd feel absolutely terrible inside. And that is the definition of an insult.

So if someone calls you and tells you a loved one has died, they just insulted you? Man, I better never let anyone know anything that will make them feel bad. That would be insulting. /s

Re: Teen leaks unreleased HTC One successor, and HTC isn't happy

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Post by randallsquared »

angryasian wrote: post #18
chris_mahan wrote: post #10

HTC, if you read this: I bought the HTC Droid when it came out (4 years ago, something like that) and I replaced it with a HTC Droid LTE (and one for my wife too). Please don't do this sort of stupid stuff. I can't in good conscience buy another phone from your company, ever, unless you apologize to the boy, his family, and anyone you went after for leaking the info (reinstate the job of anyone fired over that). For…

Your reply reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Judge Snyder lets Bart out of any kind of personal responsibility under the "Boys will be boys" rule. I'm sorry but I don't agree. People should be held responsible for their actions and perform their job duties to what is expected. This child's parent should absolutely be held responsible. We live in a society that wants to take no responsibly and sue everyone and…

The kid did nothing wrong (unless he stole the phone, obviously). Even in the article it says "the person who will be held accountable will ostensibly be the party who signed an NDA to get the handset, not Jamkatel himself", which is exactly the way it should be handled. It's not clear that the kid is in trouble at all.
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