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Reporting From the Web’s Underbelly

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> The source said that he had bought a large batch of stolen cards from an underground site and that they all appeared to have been used at Target. Interesting sidenote in the Target hack. First, something that you might not know: not one of these breaches (that is Target, Neiman Marcus, Michaels, etc.) was discovered by the actual affected companies - they were all discovered by bank and security officials in the un…

Is there a bright side to this, though? Doesn't this mean that the barrier to entry will increase for this kind of crime, and thus a smaller group of criminals will be able to perform it? Maybe that's small consolation, considering that only a handful need to do it to cause widespread havoc. Still. I hope this isn't all bad.

You can now buy credit cards on some of the new underground markets that are replacing Silk Road.

Find the type of card you want, select how many you want ($5-20 each) and go through the checkout process, just like shopping on Amazon.

What happen is that there is now another tier of distribution - the bulk guys aren't selling directly to the public any more but there are people buying from them who are, and they are making it easy.

The bright side is that with chip+pin the horizon for dumps is short, but that leaves CVV's (card not present carding, used in online fraud).

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>called a SWAT team to his home just as his mother was arriving for dinner. As far as pranks go thats actually pretty good. Better than 4chan's pizzas.

Well, it's effective , but it's certainly not good. It wastes police resources, can result in your door being kicked down (they don't compensate for repairs), your dogs could be shot, you could be tazed or shot, etc.

oh wow, so cops can go in your house, kicking door and shit, and then even if they did it for no good reason, the bill is on you ? The US are such a wonderful country.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a bright side to this, though? Doesn't this mean that the barrier to entry will increase for this kind of crime, and thus a smaller group of criminals will be able to perform it? Maybe that's small consolation, considering that only a handful need to do it to cause widespread havoc. Still. I hope this isn't all bad.

You can now buy credit cards on some of the new underground markets that are replacing Silk Road. Find the type of card you want, select how many you want ($5-20 each) and go through the checkout process, just like shopping on Amazon. What happen is that there is now another tier of distribution - the bulk guys aren't selling directly to the public any more but there are people buying from them who are , and they are…

Although I almost don't want to know the answer here, how are people usually paying for these cards? Is it Bitcoin?

I know Liberty Reserve was alleged to be popular among carders before. So has it all shifted to Bitcoin now that Liberty Reserve has been shut down?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can now buy credit cards on some of the new underground markets that are replacing Silk Road. Find the type of card you want, select how many you want ($5-20 each) and go through the checkout process, just like shopping on Amazon. What happen is that there is now another tier of distribution - the bulk guys aren't selling directly to the public any more but there are people buying from them who are , and they are…

Although I almost don't want to know the answer here, how are people usually paying for these cards? Is it Bitcoin? I know Liberty Reserve was alleged to be popular among carders before. So has it all shifted to Bitcoin now that Liberty Reserve has been shut down?

It is bitcoin almost everywhere in the underground now. It used to be "accept LR, WM, UK" (meaning liberty reserve, web money, ukash, etc.) on vendor forum posts but now the payment method isn't even mentioned since it is assumed to be bitcoin.

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The online crime world has a bitter hatred of Krebs, moreso than any other "white hat" out there probably. Numerous malware families include references to him in their source code, control panels, and domain names. As a security researcher I frequently find botnet command & control panels that have a picture of Krebs' face above the login form. Domain names similar to "briankrebsisachildmolestor.com" are sometimes us…

One of the articles profiling him mentioned he recently upgraded to a 12-guage security system.

You mean a 12 gauge shotgun?

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One of the articles profiling him mentioned he recently upgraded to a 12-guage security system.

You mean a 12 gauge shotgun?

Somehow I don't think a 1 and a half metre long gun is that appropriate for self-defence, if you're worried about people creeping up on you. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't see much in the way of a quick draw being possible. I guess when you hear the front door being broken down you can be prepared with a robust response.

Or perhaps he has a tiny train for making his getaway, wallace and gromit style?

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You mean a 12 gauge shotgun?

Somehow I don't think a 1 and a half metre long gun is that appropriate for self-defence, if you're worried about people creeping up on you. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't see much in the way of a quick draw being possible. I guess when you hear the front door being broken down you can be prepared with a robust response. Or perhaps he has a tiny train for making his getaway, wallace and gromit style?

True, a shotgun is not the sort of thing you'd carry for personal defense outside your own property, but for home defense, a 12-gauge pump-action is as good as anything, and better than most -- especially when, as mentioned in the article, you have surveillance cameras at the approaches, so you can see any unwanted guests coming with enough time to prepare for their arrival.

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The online crime world has a bitter hatred of Krebs, moreso than any other "white hat" out there probably. Numerous malware families include references to him in their source code, control panels, and domain names. As a security researcher I frequently find botnet command & control panels that have a picture of Krebs' face above the login form. Domain names similar to "briankrebsisachildmolestor.com" are sometimes us…

Not to take anything away from Brian, but I'd say the online crime world's hatred of Dancho Danchev is probably right up there, if not more. He has blogged[1] almost consistently about different malware campaigns, and for awhile was actually thought to be kidnapped[2].

[1] http://ddanchev.blogspot.com/

[2] http://techcrunch.com/2011/01/21/great-news-missing-cybersec...

Re: Reporting From the Web’s Underbelly

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Somehow I don't think a 1 and a half metre long gun is that appropriate for self-defence, if you're worried about people creeping up on you. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't see much in the way of a quick draw being possible. I guess when you hear the front door being broken down you can be prepared with a robust response. Or perhaps he has a tiny train for making his getaway, wallace and gromit style?

True, a shotgun is not the sort of thing you'd carry for personal defense outside your own property, but for home defense, a 12-gauge pump-action is as good as anything, and better than most -- especially when, as mentioned in the article, you have surveillance cameras at the approaches, so you can see any unwanted guests coming with enough time to prepare for their arrival.

The best type of firearm to have for personal defense is the one you have on you, not in your gun safe. The 12-gauge is only beneficial if you're going to carry it with you from room to room, keeping it at your side at all times.. The time between hearing someone kick in your door to being on you is just a few seconds, there's no time to open a safe. So in this type of scenario the 12-gauge isn't bad, but I'd probably still prefer a pistol on an over the waist band or shoulder holster. When you don't need to conceal it's not that difficult to carry around a full sized pistol in any reasonable defense caliber. It appears that this guy is toting his shotgun with him though, so I guess there's that.

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Well, it's effective , but it's certainly not good. It wastes police resources, can result in your door being kicked down (they don't compensate for repairs), your dogs could be shot, you could be tazed or shot, etc.

oh wow, so cops can go in your house, kicking door and shit, and then even if they did it for no good reason, the bill is on you ? The US are such a wonderful country.

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