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The Day We Do Nothing Of Consequence

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Re: The Day We Do Nothing Of Consequence

#22

One prerequisite for change here is public support. Public support requires people to know and be reminded about the issue, and it requires people to know that other people care deeply about the issue and that it's okay for them to care about it too. So I don't buy the common complaint that raising awareness is valueless. It isn't something you'll be able to measure tomorrow morning but that does not actually imply i…

Awareness isn't valueless, look at what pink and a ribbon did for cancer.

This is just another cynical internet blogger trying to make himself feel enlightened ;) nothing more.

Re: The Day We Do Nothing Of Consequence

#23
So, what would you have us do? Shouting slogans in the streets and throwing molotovs like a bunch of thugs? Democracies only work via citizens voicing their preference and then participating in the civil structure as such.

Admittedly, democracy itself has been on life support for quite some time now, but that's a separate issue.

Re: The Day We Do Nothing Of Consequence

#24
I would have loved to see an Occupy 2.0 like movement with marches or protests on the Mall, at NSA HQ, on the streets in front of their parking lot, at their freeway offramps, and at the AT&T building in San Francisco.

(Hey! There is an event at the AT&T building. Good! https://www.facebook.com/events/614121478661276/)

Protests in front of the White House.

Protests on the steps of Capitol Hill.

Protests wherever President Obama speaks for the next 30 days.

Local protests in front of Federal Courthouses.

Local protests at your Senator and Representative's office.

I sadly believe all these banners are mockable and worse than useless. The day we fight back? There wasn't even an intentional Internet blackout today!

Re: The Day We Do Nothing Of Consequence

#25
post #22

One prerequisite for change here is public support. Public support requires people to know and be reminded about the issue, and it requires people to know that other people care deeply about the issue and that it's okay for them to care about it too. So I don't buy the common complaint that raising awareness is valueless. It isn't something you'll be able to measure tomorrow morning but that does not actually imply i…

Awareness isn't valueless, look at what pink and a ribbon did for cancer. This is just another cynical internet blogger trying to make himself feel enlightened ;) nothing more.

To add to the cynicism, I'd say "look at what pink and a ribbon" did for the Susan G. Komen foundation, rather than what it did for cancer...

Re: The Day We Do Nothing Of Consequence

#26
post #22

One prerequisite for change here is public support. Public support requires people to know and be reminded about the issue, and it requires people to know that other people care deeply about the issue and that it's okay for them to care about it too. So I don't buy the common complaint that raising awareness is valueless. It isn't something you'll be able to measure tomorrow morning but that does not actually imply i…

Awareness isn't valueless, look at what pink and a ribbon did for cancer. This is just another cynical internet blogger trying to make himself feel enlightened ;) nothing more.

> Awareness isn't valueless, look at what pink and a ribbon did for cancer.

Was that sarcastic?

Re: The Day We Do Nothing Of Consequence

#27

OK, so what do you propose we do instead? crickets

Donate actual cash to a lobbying group that puts experienced lobbying muscle and cash into changing current policy. Cash is a more effective than whining to a local representative over the phone. It's also what you're up against because you're essentially fighting the military contractors.

Do you know where can I donate for this specific issue?

Re: The Day We Do Nothing Of Consequence

#28
Wow. Glass houses much? A whole post of nothing but "You're all wasting your time and not accomplishing anything."

In order to not be just 100% hypocritical he would need to offer some actual solutions.

Re: The Day We Do Nothing Of Consequence

#29

OK, so what do you propose we do instead? crickets

As someone who doesn't live in the States: organize a rally right in front of Congress (it wouldn't be the first time something like that is done[1]), march, organize protests. Things like the Civil Rights Movement, the protests against Vietnam and Gay Pride Parades are great examples of the kind of effort it takes to get real change.

Signing an internet petition, though? That didn't even bring Firefly back on TV.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rally_to_Restore_Sanity_and/or...

Re: The Day We Do Nothing Of Consequence

#30
post #15

That's how democracy works! People voice their opinions! And yes, when it happens all at once, they can create a debate by getting the attention of others. Anyone who thinks change comes easily or quickly is wrong. That's the downside to a democracy. As Churchill once said, "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time."

exactly....the problem is that if you look closely, there is no democracy at least not in the USA. Just like the tagline for the last of the Godfather movies: "Real power is not given,is taken", sadly I think History is just Mafias that get a hold of power until a new Mafia takes over, and once a century a good guy gets at the top, most of the time gets killed. When you open your mind to the possibility to see that there may be another level of power above of what the news tell us, it makes the picture easier to understand.
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