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The Calculus Trap (2005)

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Re: The Calculus Trap (2005)

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I totally agree that calculus is unlike "real math" (reasoning from first principles, proofs, abstractions). Perhaps learning linear algebra would be time better spent[1]. Sill, calculus is the first applied math course and is very useful for many areas of science so I'm not altogether in agreement that learning calculus is bad for you. On the contrary---in combination with a mechanics class it can be very good in te…

A minor correction. Calculus has loads of proofs. The calculus taught to high school and non-math undergrads tends to avoid more than a handful of proofs because most students don't need to know, nor care, about the actual math involved. Indeed, it would likely drive more students away.

I would say that calculus is the first "real math" that students study which is so complicated that they can't really learn the first principles without years of effort. That's why classes teach the most immediately useful parts instead of covering the details. Someone who only studies those basics might even come out thinking that calculus is just a bunch of techniques, without grasping how gorgeous the underlying concepts and abstractions are.

Take geometry as something I think you regard as "real math." How come geometry classes never prove that it's impossible to trisect the angle? Or double the cube? It turns out that compass and straightedge can only produce quadratic constructions, and Wantzel showed that these problems require cubics. This shows just how limited geometry really is, which is partially why students can feel that they have a handle on the entire topic. (Also, few if any secondary schools cover non-Euclidean geometries, or Euclid's book X as it explores incommensurable magnitudes.)

I would also say that trigonometry is the first applied math course that students learn, not calculus.

Let's go to calculus. Take for example the chain rule, D(g∘f)(c) = Dg(f(c))∘Df(c). This is one of those rules everyone learns in Calculus I. Can you prove it? I once could. Here's the start of the proof from my text book:

"The hypothesis implies the c is an interior point of the domain of h = g∘f. (Why?) Let e>0 and d(e, f) be as in Definition 39.2. It follows from Lemma 39.5 that there exists strictly positive numbers g, J such that if |x-c|And so on for another 10 lines of the book.

Do you really want to subject all calculus students to that level of detail? I don't. Who other than a mathematician needs to learn about Lebesgue integration and measure theory, which are even more advanced topics in calculus?

BTW, my undergrad had multivariable and vector calculus as a single Calculus III class, so there were only 3 semesters of calculus before getting into the foundations of calculus. Also, calculus books do have some proofs. For example, every chapter I looked at from http://ocw.mit.edu/resources/res-18-001-calculus-online-text... contains a few proofs.

Re: The Calculus Trap (2005)

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post #21

I totally agree that calculus is unlike "real math" (reasoning from first principles, proofs, abstractions). Perhaps learning linear algebra would be time better spent[1]. Sill, calculus is the first applied math course and is very useful for many areas of science so I'm not altogether in agreement that learning calculus is bad for you. On the contrary---in combination with a mechanics class it can be very good in te…

A minor correction. Calculus has loads of proofs. The calculus taught to high school and non-math undergrads tends to avoid more than a handful of proofs because most students don't need to know, nor care, about the actual math involved. Indeed, it would likely drive more students away. I would say that calculus is the first "real math" that students study which is so complicated that they can't really learn the firs…

>BTW, my undergrad had multivariable and vector calculus as a single Calculus III class, so there were only 3 semesters of calculus before getting into the foundations of calculus.

So did mine, which is biting me on the ass now that I'm studying for my Machine Learning exam in graduate school. This course expected matrix calculus.

Re: The Calculus Trap (2005)

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Thanks for the interesting comments. Taking the top-level comments in order of posting, I read This article is lacking examples. What exact case makes the standard curriculum bad? What are the good examples of the alternatives? The article mentions, "more importantly, the gifted, interested student should be exposed to mathematics outside the core curriculum, because the standard curriculum is not designed for the to…

> My second son is taking AP calculus BC as high school junior (eleventh grader).

Your example has a 15 year old going to community college or university in order to go to a calculus course. You named it the "calculus trap", which includes as a negative the social problem of having a 15 year old in a class full of 19 year olds. This implies that it's unlikely that the high school offers calculus.

My observation is that more and more high schools offer calculus in the high school, so the 15 year old you described, who was taking college courses to learn calculus, is now more likely to be a 15 year old at high school taking courses with 16 year olds (like your second son).

In that case, the severity of the trap is lessened, no? If only because the age gap is so much less.

I'm not saying that you are wrong about how math knowledge should be developed. I point out only that the arguments from your hypothetical case feel a bit out of date.

Than again, suppose the 15 year old does take calculus at high school, then takes a tertiary education class at age 16. What class might that be? That's about the time the standard college curriculum branches away from calculus, to include algebra, differential equations, or discrete math.

In that case, it's not really a "calculus" trap, no? :)

Also, I read the reviews of KTEM. Cross-cultural observational comparisons are often enticing, but it's hard to draw firm conclusions from them. Had you read, say, a comparison with the Finnish model then perhaps you might have drawn different conclusions?

My hypothesis, btw, is that the US is entirely too car dependent. Extracurricular activities like a city math club would be much easier if teens had ready access to transportation independent of their parents.

Re: The Calculus Trap (2005)

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Personally, I hated calculus. It turned me off of math for a long time -- there was too much emphasis on memorizing heuristics for solving problems, like integral tricks and trigonometric identities. Worse, calculus was used as the canonical example of "college-level math", so it seemed that further math courses would just be about memorizing more and more problem solving tricks. (In my view, solving integrals is a s…

I half agree. I'm not sure if your or most calculus curriculums involved much derivation, or whether I ended up lucking out and getting a great instructor. We ended up deriving a number of the "integral tricks" from "scratch" (e.g. Fundamental Theorem of Calculus). Sometimes they went way over our heads, but I generally found that the derivation process really helped me understand at more of a gut level what was going on.

Re: The Calculus Trap (2005)

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Thanks for the interesting comments. Taking the top-level comments in order of posting, I read This article is lacking examples. What exact case makes the standard curriculum bad? What are the good examples of the alternatives? The article mentions, "more importantly, the gifted, interested student should be exposed to mathematics outside the core curriculum, because the standard curriculum is not designed for the to…

First - you are taking on a very worth cause. I think you are missing a very important point above and beyond skill building, though.

Many people that are very advanced in math get bored. Topics like number theory can reintroduce the fun and wonder in math that has been beaten out by the system. Bringing "Wow, how can that possibly be?" back into mathematics should be a goal in and of itself. (This isn't meant to degrade the "master the basics to master the complex" argument either)

Re: The Calculus Trap (2005)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My high school ran out of math classes for me and 10% of my classmates after 11th grade.

Ran out at which level? The author apparently went to a high school without calculus. I'm trying to get a feel for how common that is, especially since it looks like several times more schools offer calculus now than when the author went to school in the late 1980s.

No calculus.

Re: The Calculus Trap (2005)

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ran out at which level? The author apparently went to a high school without calculus. I'm trying to get a feel for how common that is, especially since it looks like several times more schools offer calculus now than when the author went to school in the late 1980s.

No calculus.

Tx

Re: The Calculus Trap (2005)

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I totally agree that calculus is unlike "real math" (reasoning from first principles, proofs, abstractions). Perhaps learning linear algebra would be time better spent[1]. Sill, calculus is the first applied math course and is very useful for many areas of science so I'm not altogether in agreement that learning calculus is bad for you. On the contrary---in combination with a mechanics class it can be very good in te…

> Calc I, Calc II, multivariable, vector calculus, etc. That's like 4 semesters of calculus!

I'm counting at least eight classes that were arguably Calculus in my undergrad program:

* Calc I (basic differentiation/antidifferentiation) * Calc II (integration techniques/applications, series/sequences) * Calc III (vector calc) * Careful/Proven Calc (Real Analysis I) * Careful/Proven Calc II (Real Analysis II) * Differential Equations * Partial Differential Equations

Five of which I took (unsurprising for a math major).

It's a lot, and I could definitely wish there was more linear algebra (the intro LA course was a significant part of what convinced me to look at the major, and I took the grad level matrix analysis class as one of my electives because there wasn't anything else). At the same time, I can see why it's all there.

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