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We need new countries !

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Re: We need new countries !

#21

by the time i hovered your fancy kudos button and realized i had just given an "unretractable" kudo by accident I had lost all interest in what you have to say about countries... wonderful minimalism...

I too was caught by surprise by that kudos button. It seems to be a very poor design choice if your aim is to measure the amount of "genuine" kudos you get...

Re: We need new countries !

#22

> I have a hypothesis, that the most life-capable beings are those, who are able to cope with risk and fear, cross the line of comfort zone, and explore new unknown areas. In this manner, America inherited the best ones in the world, and I think this is one of the reasons why America is the wealthiest country, according to several measurements. Uh, this is the first time I have heard that Americans are somehow geneti…

I'm from Europe and have absolutely no problem with this statement. I myself think that argument is valid. Although later immigrants had to take far less risk, and would argue they are the majority now.

Please do not start a race-war, this was a solid reasoning, anyone could have moved to America back then.

Re: We need new countries !

#24
post #4

On the contrary, we need fewer countries, fewer borders and more decentralization.

Recently I was wishing for 'fat' borders, instead of thin lines. Under some kind of U.N law. To avoid or at least reduce friction between people.

Re: We need new countries !

#25

Full disclosure - I'm American and have lived here since birth, as is my entire family as far back as it matters. America was founded by political dissidents, religious nut bags, criminals, and paranoid sociopaths who couldn't cut it in civilized Europe. Today, America is controlled by billionaires that profit from and exploit that same paranoia and fear. Yes, America is a nation that is nearly entirely crippled by f…

FEMA teaching its employees that the founding fathers were the "first terrorist organization in the United States":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPg9MdN9Gio&feature=youtu.be...

Re: We need new countries !

#26

> I have a hypothesis, that the most life-capable beings are those, who are able to cope with risk and fear, cross the line of comfort zone, and explore new unknown areas. In this manner, America inherited the best ones in the world, and I think this is one of the reasons why America is the wealthiest country, according to several measurements. Uh, this is the first time I have heard that Americans are somehow geneti…

I don't think he was trying to get at race or genetics, but rather attitude. I wouldn't say it 'inherited', but the 'culture' was one of people willing to get rid of their old stable lives for one of 'unlimited' opportunity, freedom, risk and adventure. Whether or not that attitude is actually still pervasive or whether it's a nice story we tell ourselves is debatable, but it was true of the europeans that founded th…

I wouldn't say it 'inherited', but the 'culture' was one of people willing to get rid of their old stable lives for one of 'unlimited' opportunity, freedom, risk and adventure.

I actually see much of the early immigration as the reverse: people who wanted to maintain their old stable lives, but for various reasons were finding it difficult to do so in Europe, due to religious or political differences. So, they left to found a new society elsewhere, where they could keep and enforce their traditional community norms. The Puritans were not looking for frontier living or risky fortune, but rather for the opportunity to maintain a very communalist, strict, religious community in keeping with their faith. Early Puritan communities were not some kind of individualist libertarian society, but more like religious communes, with strict rules on what you could do on which days of the week and in what manner. The Hasidim might be the closest modern-day analog: they moved to places like Brooklyn not out of a desire for adventure, but because it was somewhere they could maintain their traditional way of life, which was becoming impossible to do in Eastern Europe. Within the U.S., the "Mormon exodus" westwards from Illinois to Utah had a similar motivation.

Re: We need new countries !

#27
I had thoughts about the topic once, and my Mom had a pretty solid counter-argument. That country would have too many haters and would be too easy to attack. Innovation better stays decentralized.

Re: We need new countries !

#29
He might have some of the reasons wrong, but more countries would be better. Big nations are unmanageable and too easy to corrupt on an institutional scale. Americans don't seem to see this, except maybe seeing California as a state that's too big to manage. Setting Silicon Valley free as a separate nation might be, as another commenter here wrote "a libertarian pipe dream," But several smaller groups of united states would be more politically coherent, and, by the same mechanisms as the EU, retain free trade.

Smaller Americas would be less likely to go to war, implement TBTF bank policies, or engage in other follies. Congressional districts would become too small to gerrymander. Buying five Congresses would cost five times as much.

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