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California Law to Require Antitheft Technology in Cellphones

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Re: California Law to Require Antitheft Technology in Cellphones

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Nice, a kill switch in every phone. When there’s a big demonstration/revolution we’re just gonna kill all the phones out there with a simple data packet.

It would be a dumb idea to take your device to a revolution in the first place.

As a Ukrainian, who has seen that smartphones, especially used by citizen streamers, are extremely important for a revolution, I can assure that you are wrong.

Re: California Law to Require Antitheft Technology in Cellphones

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This is really needed. In New York, there is a problem of punk kids snatching iPhones and running. It is hard for the police to do anything about it, and these kids are fencing the phones for about $150, and they are likely shipped to out of the country where carrier blocks don't work.

For whatever reason, I have heard of a bunch of people that get their iPhones snatched, but never android phones.

The market for bad ESN phones is way too strong. A simple ebay search shows that bad a ESN iPhone 5 still fetches $250. Apple needs to drive down the value of bad ESN phones to near zero for the safety of their own customers.

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There's already an easy way to do this (that I remember reading somewhere is already being done in Australia). When a phone is reported stolen the carriers just need to blacklist the IMEI so it doesn't work - removes the incentive to steal devices. I don't remember where I originally read this (probably here), but the US carriers were not interested in doing this because they don't see stolen phones as a problem that…

We can do that in the US too. I don't believe there is coöperation between international carriers, though.

Re: California Law to Require Antitheft Technology in Cellphones

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There's already an easy way to do this (that I remember reading somewhere is already being done in Australia). When a phone is reported stolen the carriers just need to blacklist the IMEI so it doesn't work - removes the incentive to steal devices. I don't remember where I originally read this (probably here), but the US carriers were not interested in doing this because they don't see stolen phones as a problem that…

We can do that in the US too. I don't believe there is coöperation between international carriers, though.

You're probably right - I think that's more valuable to coordinate rather than a mandatory kill switch.

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>On Friday, State Senator Mark Leno of California, a Democrat, is expected to introduce legislation requiring all smartphones and tablets sold in the state to include this kind of feature.

This should be a required option, even if it's opt out. The consumer should be able to turn off this kind of remote authorisation over their device, even if it reduces the "herd immunity".

Killing core functionality goes a step beyond IMEI blacklisting, which can be circumvented by selling the phone outside the blacklisted jurisdictions. An IMEI-blacklisted phone is a phone with a reduced market. An effectively "killed" phone is worth its recycling rebate.

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How can California do this? Interstate commerce clause and all that.

CA can require that every phone sold in their state must have it. Since it's easier not to have multiple models, until another state makes it illegal to have it, the models sold in other state will have it by default.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

We can do that in the US too. I don't believe there is coöperation between international carriers, though.

You're probably right - I think that's more valuable to coordinate rather than a mandatory kill switch.

I whole-heartedly agree.

Re: California Law to Require Antitheft Technology in Cellphones

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This is really needed. In New York, there is a problem of punk kids snatching iPhones and running. It is hard for the police to do anything about it, and these kids are fencing the phones for about $150, and they are likely shipped to out of the country where carrier blocks don't work. For whatever reason, I have heard of a bunch of people that get their iPhones snatched, but never android phones. The market for bad…

How quickly do these 'punk kids' sell the phones on, though? And could a system to trigger the killswitch be responsive enough to trigger it before the phone's been sold? And if it were, could it ever hope to be sure of the facts in time to catch bad requests?
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