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Apple Claims 91% of $1,000+ PC Market Revenue in June

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Re: Apple Claims 91% of $1,000+ PC Market Revenue in June

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Post by olefoo »

vaksel wrote: post #16
pavlov wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mercedes is quite active at the lowest end of the market: they produce cute microcars under the Smart brand. (I guess Smarts might not be available in the US at all, considering Americans' excess-oriented taste in automobiles.)

smarts are around, but they are not that popular. I think they've been out for two or even three years here, but I haven't seen one yet

I see two or three a week, but that may be a function of the places I spend my time. They strike me as tippy and underpowered. I could see using one in the city, but I wouldn't want to take one from Portland to Seattle, or to the mountains.

Re: Apple Claims 91% of $1,000+ PC Market Revenue in June

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Post by josefresco »

ptomato wrote: post #20
ljlolel wrote: post #3

This is not necessarily a good thing. Apple has largely $1000+ computers. Them taking 91% (and having single-digit overall market share) means that consumers increasingly prefer small portable cheap low-power computers (netbooks and similar), while the high-end market disappears. As an analogy, it would be like Cray boasting 20 years ago that they owned 90% of the $10,000+ computer market. Apple needs to innovate on…

People have been saying for years that Apple needs to come out with lower end products or they'll die. Their steadily increasing profits (even through the recession) and massive cash reserves say otherwise.

There's a big difference between being successful and being change-the-world successful. I'm sure Apple would love a piece of the latter but given their business model it probably won't happen.

I can't imagine Jobs is happy about being just being a billionaire when there are guys like Gates who dwarf his wealth and success (and therefore have the cash to actually saves many more lives and alter world history)

Re: Apple Claims 91% of $1,000+ PC Market Revenue in June

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Post by _pius »

blhack wrote: post #8

You know...reading this headline, I'm not sure that I even know of any consumer-level PCs that cost over $1000 (obviously servers, CAD/3d Modeling workstations)... I'm typing this from my acer aspire one right now and, honestly, this is more computer than I even need... I will admit that I am a bit odd, the only thing I really use my computer for is an SSH/HTTP client; certainly my usage habits are different than som…

Good point.

That said, I think the statistic actually includes portables, not just desktop machines.

Re: Apple Claims 91% of $1,000+ PC Market Revenue in June

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Post by josefresco »

zimbabwe wrote: post #2

I'm astounded at how recession-proof Apple has made itself seem. I was hoping they'd survive without too many bruises, but it seems as if the recession is boosting their sales, if anything.

Apparently you missed the news last week the Apple dropped from 4th to 5th or 5th to 6th (can't remember exactly) in the top PC manufacturers in the world. The recession and the shift to cheaper PC's was cited as the cause.

Not necessarily a bad thing but it's definitely not a 'boost' in sales.

Re: Apple Claims 91% of $1,000+ PC Market Revenue in June

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Post by josefresco »

JeremyChase wrote: post #10

This is a staggering figure, but shouldn't be a surprise when you look at the PC laptop offerings. The way I see it, there are so many offerings under $1,000 that I can't see why you would pay more for a PC. $800 or so will get you a near top of the line system, and if you pay more than that you probably have a special application and as a result are paying a steep premium. Apple has successfully positioned itself as…

It's easy to break 1K if you factor in gaming or simply want a nicely-built machine. Case-in-point the Dell Inspiron line dominates under 1K, but if you want an XPS you gotta spend over the 1K mark.

The Inspirons compete with the XPSs as far as specs, but the quality and build of the XPS machines take them a notch above.

Re: Apple Claims 91% of $1,000+ PC Market Revenue in June

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Post by adamc »

mechanical_fish wrote: post #15
ljlolel wrote: post #3

This is not necessarily a good thing. Apple has largely $1000+ computers. Them taking 91% (and having single-digit overall market share) means that consumers increasingly prefer small portable cheap low-power computers (netbooks and similar), while the high-end market disappears. As an analogy, it would be like Cray boasting 20 years ago that they owned 90% of the $10,000+ computer market. Apple needs to innovate on…

the high-end market disappears Or the whole market for things called "computers" is growing, and the high-end market is just growing slower than the rest of it. This doesn't mean that the high-end market is doomed. It might just be growing at a slower rate. You may ask: Why doesn't Apple then try to get into a business that is growing faster ? The answer is: Sales growth is not the metric. Any business can boost sale…

No, my answer would be: they did. iPhones and iPods are definitely markets that are growing faster. Apple did the smart thing and moved into other markets where its design expertise could make a big difference.

Re: Apple Claims 91% of $1,000+ PC Market Revenue in June

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Post by adamc »

ljlolel wrote: post #3

This is not necessarily a good thing. Apple has largely $1000+ computers. Them taking 91% (and having single-digit overall market share) means that consumers increasingly prefer small portable cheap low-power computers (netbooks and similar), while the high-end market disappears. As an analogy, it would be like Cray boasting 20 years ago that they owned 90% of the $10,000+ computer market. Apple needs to innovate on…

Another alternative is that they live with being the Jaguar of computers and look for growth in other markets.

Re: Apple Claims 91% of $1,000+ PC Market Revenue in June

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Post by briancooley »

ljlolel wrote: post #3

This is not necessarily a good thing. Apple has largely $1000+ computers. Them taking 91% (and having single-digit overall market share) means that consumers increasingly prefer small portable cheap low-power computers (netbooks and similar), while the high-end market disappears. As an analogy, it would be like Cray boasting 20 years ago that they owned 90% of the $10,000+ computer market. Apple needs to innovate on…

Them taking 91% (and having single-digit overall market share) means that consumers increasingly prefer small portable cheap low-power computers

Their market share might be single-digit, but hasn't it been growing?

Another interpretation might be that consumers are simultaneously migrating towards Apple PC's and laptops as well as purchasing netbooks and similar for added convenience. That's the story in my household.

Re: Apple Claims 91% of $1,000+ PC Market Revenue in June

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Post by sgoraya »

pavlov wrote: post #11
pchristensen wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know, this is like saying Mercedes needs to get into the sub-$40K market. Maybe they do, maybe not. I think Mercedes and Apple would rather own the top and have the market rise to them.

Mercedes is quite active at the lowest end of the market: they produce cute microcars under the Smart brand. (I guess Smarts might not be available in the US at all, considering Americans' excess-oriented taste in automobiles.)

Very true - In Europe, you see those tiny Mercedes everywhere. A couple of people commented that they have been spotted in the US though I have not come across one yet in California.
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