Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On • Hacker News Board

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by PinguTS » Sat, Feb 01, 2014, 8:07 PM UTC

The problem is just: "You have old software, which was distributed on CD/DVD and have no drive anymore." The solution: get a drive or use another Mac's drive via Remote DVD. The problem is not only with Adobe, but with others too. Like there is no MS Office download, AFAIK.

Yes, Adobe has a ridiculous pricing policy, especially if you live outside the US (yeah, translating from English to English is expansive, UK version, AUS version, I get that ). But that is a different point, I think.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by jrs99 » Sat, Feb 01, 2014, 8:09 PM UTC

JAFTEM wrote: post #4

I don't think Adobe has actually cared too much whether or not individual customers pirate their software. From what I've heard, piracy has actually helped the popularity of their products so that more companies and schools, who account for the bulk of their revenue, will buy their products en masse.

it would suck for them if all students started using GIMP, get hired and ask their boss: Can I use GIMP for this? It's absolutely free.

Then you start seeing job postings looking for "GIMP experience required."

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by DominikR » Sat, Feb 01, 2014, 8:09 PM UTC

I just don't get such people, how can someone be so persistently annoying instead of just downloading the damn software somewhere else?

Or maybe connecting an external DVD drive/using Apple Software to connect to some DVD drive over network.

Instead this guy wastes his time calling hotlines and writing a pointless blog post - I guess that's what it means to be more productive on a Mac. (Of course, there are people that don't know how to solve such an issue, but this person is probably not one of them)

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by supercanuck » Sat, Feb 01, 2014, 8:11 PM UTC

logicallee wrote: post #14

woah wrote: post #5

Hate to say it, but I pirate Adobe's software for real. I use Pixelmator and Sketch, which are superior products at one tenth of the price. However, I often need to open files in Adobe's legacy formats, and since they do not provide any sort of converter software, I must take the only option available to me.

I think you mean, "the cheaper of the two options available to me."

Where there is a market problem, there will be a market solution.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by lfuller » Sat, Feb 01, 2014, 8:12 PM UTC

It seems to me that if you're planning to apply your serial to a piece of software that you download off The Pirate Bay then that software is not an illegal copy. It's only illegal if you breach your licensing agreement.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by CrazedGeek » Sat, Feb 01, 2014, 8:14 PM UTC

toomuchtodo wrote: post #18

logicallee wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you mean, "the cheaper of the two options available to me."

If there are two products, and both can accomplish the necessary task(s), and one is cheaper, the cheaper product is the superior product.

I think the comparison was between paying and not paying for Photoshop, not between Photoshop and Pixelmator.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by edj » Sat, Feb 01, 2014, 8:21 PM UTC

Installing old-school, shrinkwrapped box software onto computers that lack disk drives is a real pain point for a lot of people.

I made a little video[1] explaining how to install MS Office Mac 2011 onto a MacBook Air -- for my own use, in case I ever needed to do it again -- and it's received over 36,000 views.

LOTS of people have trouble with this. The Microsofts and Adobes in the industry don't appear to realize the difficulty their customers face.

1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz3hloQl_qs

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by sigzero » Sat, Feb 01, 2014, 8:21 PM UTC

> Me: So you’re telling me I should download an illegal copy of your software, and use my legal serial with it?

If you have your legal serial number for the software...it isn't pirating.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by dkuntz2 » Sat, Feb 01, 2014, 8:21 PM UTC

I have an issue with the car analogy. First, warranty isn't forever. Second CS5 was released four years ago, which is a really long time in software, to make the analogy more accurate you'd need to take a really old car that doesn't have replacement parts being made for it anymore to the dealer and claim they need to fix it.

There's also the issue of Student/Teacher edition means you can't use it except for educational purposes, and it seems like the author was going to use them for professional work, which means he needs a different license, legally speaking.

Finally, it's not up to Adobe to provide you with installers just because you can't be bothered to go get a disk drive. They're not that expensive. The problem exists solely on the author's side, not Adobe's.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by akerl_ » Sat, Feb 01, 2014, 8:21 PM UTC

woah wrote: post #5

Hate to say it, but I pirate Adobe's software for real. I use Pixelmator and Sketch, which are superior products at one tenth of the price. However, I often need to open files in Adobe's legacy formats, and since they do not provide any sort of converter software, I must take the only option available to me.

Can you clarify how pirating Adobe's software is "the only option available to [you]"? I get that it's ridiculously expensive and generally a pain in the ass... but needing to do something expensive doesn't provide justification for bypassing the cost, or in any way make "paying for the product" no longer an option.