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Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

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Kim Dotcom is an evil genius and a remarkable marketing guy. During his whole career no doubts he made a fortune out of other people work BUT, still, he can't be considered responsible for it because - in fact - he had MILLIONS of users who actually used the pirated content megaupload made available (and i dare anyone here to throw the first stone if they never used megaupload). So, while i'm not yet sure i like the…

I never used megaupload ... but casting the first stone is always dangerous.

Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

#22

Fuck Kim Dotcom. He's a scumbag piece of shit who deserves to rot in prison. He plots and schemes way to put hundreds of millions of dollars into his pocket off of the works of others. Anyone who supports him should be ashamed of themselves.

> He plots and schemes way to put hundreds of millions of dollars into his pocket off of the works of others. And the way the recording industry works is any different?

Two wrongs make a right, right?

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From what Courtney Love said, that's not really true. Well selling records can actually put the artist in debt. The best venue for artist to earn money are tours and merchandise.

Steve Albini added figures to that : http://www.negativland.com/news/?page_id=17 Pretty famous & old article but still informative.

I don't doubt it's a messed up industry in many ways, but even "messed up" beats "rip off 100% and give nothing back" every time.

For me as a fan of several groups, the key thing, economically speaking, is that the group is able to work on their music full time, thus maximizing their creative output and therefore, as someone who enjoys what they do, the benefits to me.

Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Steve Albini added figures to that : http://www.negativland.com/news/?page_id=17 Pretty famous & old article but still informative.

I don't doubt it's a messed up industry in many ways, but even "messed up" beats "rip off 100% and give nothing back" every time. For me as a fan of several groups, the key thing, economically speaking, is that the group is able to work on their music full time, thus maximizing their creative output and therefore, as someone who enjoys what they do, the benefits to me.

The problem is that not enough artists think about what they do as a business but as right they have to do what they want.

Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

#28

Fuck Kim Dotcom. He's a scumbag piece of shit who deserves to rot in prison. He plots and schemes way to put hundreds of millions of dollars into his pocket off of the works of others. Anyone who supports him should be ashamed of themselves.

> He plots and schemes way to put hundreds of millions of dollars into his pocket off of the works of others. And the way the recording industry works is any different?

It's fundamentally different. There's a contractual relationship between an artist and a label. The label may be taking advantage of the artist, but that's what the artist agreed to (albeit unwittingly, I'm sure).

Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

#29

Kim Dotcom is an evil genius and a remarkable marketing guy. During his whole career no doubts he made a fortune out of other people work BUT, still, he can't be considered responsible for it because - in fact - he had MILLIONS of users who actually used the pirated content megaupload made available (and i dare anyone here to throw the first stone if they never used megaupload). So, while i'm not yet sure i like the…

Kimble is a fraud and an asshole. The only things he's good at are marketing and scamming. Just take a look at his history- insider trading, selling userdata from a BBS he ran to a lawyer, scamming the german telcos... the list is quite long.

He's a good marketer, but one of the worst people I've read about. There's a file of his quotes (from the CCC mailing list) circulating, if you know german you should try reading that. Really gives some insight into him. For example how that l33t hacker cred he has is all for show– I wouldn't buy anything about free speech from him either. He's only interested in money. I remember one quote from one of his teachers about how Kimble was the most antisocial kid he ever teached LOL.

TLDR: You really shouldnt like the guy, read a bit about him and you'll figure out why.

EDIT: Here's the quote file: http://babsi.de/KIMBLE.txt

Re: Kim Dotcom's new music streaming service

#30

Fuck Kim Dotcom. He's a scumbag piece of shit who deserves to rot in prison. He plots and schemes way to put hundreds of millions of dollars into his pocket off of the works of others. Anyone who supports him should be ashamed of themselves.

> He plots and schemes way to put hundreds of millions of dollars into his pocket off of the works of others. And the way the recording industry works is any different?

Except artists voluntarily sign contracts with RIAA.

Doubt Kim's service pays anything to the artists at all.

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