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Sleeping with Your Gadgets On

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Re: Sleeping with Your Gadgets On

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I'm asleep in about 10 minutes and so can you: - no computer, tablet, tv 60 minutes before the bed.. - no lights in the bedroom - breath-in & breath-out while counting from 100 to 1 :)

That might work for you, but it's not a real solution for many of us with diagnosed sleep disorders.

Re: Sleeping with Your Gadgets On

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post #14

I have flux on my desktop, but I'll be looking for a filter for my iphone. (Edit: I like the orange glasses idea better.) Here's what I do: an alarm goes off at 10:30pm and I take melatonin. If I actually shun devices, I can eventually sleep. But my brain is curious and wants to browse. I try to tell myself that I can in the morning. That sometimes works. Lately I've been tracking my sleep with "sleep time". I also h…

When I was following the starting strength program I was asleep before my head hit the pillow - if you're thinking about following a heavy weight, compound exercise program this is one of the nice benefits. A 2 times body weight dead lift is a very effective way of feeling exhausted.

Re: Sleeping with Your Gadgets On

#23

I'm asleep in about 10 minutes and so can you: - no computer, tablet, tv 60 minutes before the bed.. - no lights in the bedroom - breath-in & breath-out while counting from 100 to 1 :)

That might work for you, but it's not a real solution for many of us with diagnosed sleep disorders.

But it's easy to try, free, and does not require python3

Re: Sleeping with Your Gadgets On

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post #14

I have flux on my desktop, but I'll be looking for a filter for my iphone. (Edit: I like the orange glasses idea better.) Here's what I do: an alarm goes off at 10:30pm and I take melatonin. If I actually shun devices, I can eventually sleep. But my brain is curious and wants to browse. I try to tell myself that I can in the morning. That sometimes works. Lately I've been tracking my sleep with "sleep time". I also h…

When I was following the starting strength program I was asleep before my head hit the pillow - if you're thinking about following a heavy weight, compound exercise program this is one of the nice benefits. A 2 times body weight dead lift is a very effective way of feeling exhausted.

I can vouch for deadlifts putting you to sleep as that is part of my regular routine. 30-40 reps of Turkish Get-ups at 25% of your body weight is also very effective.

http://stats.preenandprune.com/

Re: Sleeping with Your Gadgets On

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> That’s why watching old TV shows is so effective; it gives me something to focus on without letting me really engage.

This is what I've been doing for years, there's probably about 20 films that I must've seen dozens of times each, and a few TV shows that I know and like enough to be able to watch time and time again without needing to focus on exciting plot twists because I already know them. Works really well for me, but this is the first time I've come across another person doing the same thing.

Re: Sleeping with Your Gadgets On

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He tried removing it entirely, he mentioned reading in the post. Why isn't it ok that he found a way to get to sleep easier with his devices?

Because in my opinion (solely based on intuition and vague memories of things read in scientific articles on the matter), as a solution for sleep problems, it's still inferior to just turning them off. I know he mentions books in the articles but put them away because they either were either too exciting or too boring. To me that sounds like not having tried hard enough. As I said: replacing such nightly habit with a…

As someone who suffers from the same kinds of sleep issues he does (especially his point about letting his brain unwind with old TV shows), I think it's much more important to find something that works without you having to fight hard for it (at least at first, maybe if now he starts slowly replacing some of his devices with books, etc. he'll have more success).

I've found success with a formula much more like yours (no blue light for an hour before bed unless absolutely necessary). I understand what he means about books being too exciting or boring too. What I've done is what he does with TV: I reread books (I also lean towards very simple to read books). Just this year I've done Liar's Poker, Moneyball, The Hobbit, and am working my way through the original Bourne series.

Re: Sleeping with Your Gadgets On

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Congrats on finding something that works. If you ever want to try reading again, try rereading books. It works pretty similarly to how old TV shows work for you (at least for me). As long as you stick to simple to read books (stuff designed for young adults but still interesting to adults works well: Ender's Game, The Hobbit, The Phantom Tollbooth, etc.)

Re: Sleeping with Your Gadgets On

#29

I'm asleep in about 10 minutes and so can you: - no computer, tablet, tv 60 minutes before the bed.. - no lights in the bedroom - breath-in & breath-out while counting from 100 to 1 :)

That might work for you, but it's not a real solution for many of us with diagnosed sleep disorders.

If you have a diagnosed sleep disorder, shouldn't you be getting advice from a doctor, rather than the internet? I think it was pretty clear that the commenter was giving advice to the majority of people who have not been diagnosed with a sleep disorder.

Re: Sleeping with Your Gadgets On

#30

I'm asleep in about 10 minutes and so can you: - no computer, tablet, tv 60 minutes before the bed.. - no lights in the bedroom - breath-in & breath-out while counting from 100 to 1 :)

> and so can you

Well, thanks for the suggestion, but it's certainly not for everyone.

Sometimes my sleep-awake schedule breaks and it's a PITA.

I can lie for hours in a almost complete darkness, counting breaths/sheeps/listening to rain outside/etc and still not falling asleep for a single bit. Melatonin doesn't do much; haven't tried anything else. Then, when it's a day already, nor willpower, nor direct sunlight, nor coffee is not enough to keep me awake for a long time - usually I can't stay until evening. Let me lay for a minute and I'll be asleep even if the sun's shining right onto my closed eyes.

The only way for me to fix my schedule seems to gradually shift sleep times by several hours (i.e. go to sleep at 10:00 [a.m.], then 13:00 then 15:00 and so on) until I'm again falling asleep in the late evening and waking up at morning. Then I'd have to do my best to not break the schedule again, i.e. not fall asleep too early and not stay up for too late.

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