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Ethereum: A Turing-Complete Cryptocurrency

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Re: Ethereum: A Turing-Complete Cryptocurrency

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The fee goes to the miner who happens to find the containing block, yes. But not to the thousands of validating nodes integral to the network. And over time fees are given proportional to hashpower... which doesn't make any kind of sense. The incentives are all messed up.

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Are you the same guy who called the bitcoin peak perfectly in April on irc?

Re: Ethereum: A Turing-Complete Cryptocurrency

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My first thought was why would one want their currency to be Turing-complete? It's actually a cool concept though. Being able to have your money make decisions opens all kinds of possibilities.

This allows for the implementation of a completely distributed trading platform.

Re: Ethereum: A Turing-Complete Cryptocurrency

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Text content: http://pastebin.com/NCGRv74u (Saw comments that the site went down and still had it loaded on my machine)

I'm still trying to understand how the whole system works. It appears to be groundbreaking but I'm not really sure. The last sentence in the document should catch your interest:

"As a result, we have a cryptocurrency protocol whose codebase is very small, and yet which can do anything that any cryptocurrency will ever be able to do."

Re: Ethereum: A Turing-Complete Cryptocurrency

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I think the clever idea here (IMO) are the fees. An argument against implementing a Turing complete language inside Bitcoin or an Altcoin might be that it's hard to determine when execution should end. The fees allow arbitrarily complex constructs without any hard cap, while preventing abuse.

Except it pays the wrong people. In Bitcoin, at least, miners are kept honest by other people running nodes that limit what miners can do. In this protocol the validation would become very expensive but only the miners are paid. This sounds like trouble.

Re: Ethereum: A Turing-Complete Cryptocurrency

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My first thought was why would one want their currency to be Turing-complete? It's actually a cool concept though. Being able to have your money make decisions opens all kinds of possibilities.

This allows for the implementation of a completely distributed trading platform.

No it doesn't. Or rather— it's not necessary or sufficient: you can already trade distributed cryptocoins, and no amount of cryptocoin magic can completely distribute USD or other non-cryptocoin assets because their differential counterparty risk makes every promise different.

Re: Ethereum: A Turing-Complete Cryptocurrency

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey, I like your assessment ability. Contact me at jkwon.work@gmail.com, I have an idea I want to share with you.

Are you the same guy who called the bitcoin peak perfectly in April on irc?

yes. :)

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Re: Ethereum: A Turing-Complete Cryptocurrency

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Text content: http://pastebin.com/NCGRv74u (Saw comments that the site went down and still had it loaded on my machine)

I'm still trying to understand how the whole system works. It appears to be groundbreaking but I'm not really sure. The last sentence in the document should catch your interest: "As a result, we have a cryptocurrency protocol whose codebase is very small, and yet which can do anything that any cryptocurrency will ever be able to do."

Unless one considers the lack of Turing-completeness to be a feature (as Bitcoin apparently does, pointed out in a few other comments here).
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