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Dear Jailbreak Community

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Re: Dear Jailbreak Community

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post #3

Chrome seems to detect the encoding of this page wrong -- find the deeply-buried "Encoding" menu and set it to UTF-8 for more readability.

Chrome (and Firefox for that matter) are doing what they should be. The default encoding for HTTP is ISO-8859-1 and the Content-Type header doesn't specify a charset, so that is what the browsers are displaying it as.

Re: Dear Jailbreak Community

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post #8

I don't think this really helps evad3rs build credibility. They put a giant, user-facing blob payload into their jailbreak with no transparency about how it got there or what it is. Reading between the lines they were paid for it, but they don't even manage to come out and say that outright in this "letter." There's always some level of faith involved in installing an early iOS jailbreak, because exploits often aren'…

Just to point out that evad3rs are basically the core group within the iPhone Dev Team. I wouldn't really trust future Dev Team jailbreaks anymore either.

Re: Dear Jailbreak Community

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but there are understandable reasons not to open-source exploits Legit question, What reasons could there be?

Two of them come to mind: * They don't want the exploit "stolen" or reused by another party (for good or evil) * They don't want to make it too easy for Apple to patch it.

This exploit was already patched by Apple in the next version, as far as I understand.

Re: Dear Jailbreak Community

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The justification of their actions, to renumerate developers for their work, is of course a sentiment of paramount importance. However, clearly, the way in which it was executed (bundling a questionable foreign App Store) wasn't the best, and in my opinion they should look to more interesting monetisation avenues than sponsorship.

Re: Dear Jailbreak Community

#27
post #15

I'm still baffled as to why someone would want to buy a locked up device and be forced to use frequent / complicated measures to be somewhat freed... I understand if you didn't get a choice at first, but I people realizing they are really stuck in a jail anyway, without any jailbreaks, might do more good than having them. (Though I encourage breaking things! ;)

There are hundreds of millions of happy iPhone users out there. For the overwhelming majority of people, the restrictions on the device are not burdensome.

Re: Dear Jailbreak Community

#28
post #17

(This is what I said on Twitter in response.) So, yes: someone approached me with a potential jailbreak; the goal being to get a non-piracy-laden jailbreak out; this does not seem bad... ...in particular, I do not see how it is "backstabbing" @evad3rs (as some claim): it was unlikely to work, and was mostly just "having fun". Also, I am not part of @evad3rs: they made that very clear to me. They never told me anythin…

Did they change the text? What I'm seeing is: > SaurikIT had been in talks with Chinese companies regarding potential partnerships, made a counteroffer. We believe they share our views on how a relationship with companies in China currently utilizing jailbreaking might benefit everyone in the community. Unfortunately, the negotiations did not work out. A few days later, we received information that SaurikIT was worki…

My Twitter replies were filled with people angry at me for "backstabbing", I think largely caused by i0n1c's interpretation of the letter.

> LOL now the @evad3rs say that @saurik backstabbed them and tried to release JB with other people. http://evasi0n.com/l.html

-- https://twitter.com/i0n1c/status/414859729081352192

Re: Dear Jailbreak Community

#29

I am not sure how to interpret this statement: "Yes, we have benefitted financially from our work, just as many others in the jailbreak community have, including tweak developers, repo owners, etc. Any jailbreak from us will always be free to the users but we believe we have a right to be compensated in an ethical way, just as any other developer. " In my world view people do work in exchange for money, there are two…

It's almost certainly a copyright violation in the US, but is it illegal in China for a Chinese company to pay developers to modify another company's software for commercial gain?

Another relevant question, would developers in another country be breaking their country's laws by accepting such work?

Edit: note that I'm not intending to equate ethicality with legality.

Re: Dear Jailbreak Community

#30
post #8

I don't think this really helps evad3rs build credibility. They put a giant, user-facing blob payload into their jailbreak with no transparency about how it got there or what it is. Reading between the lines they were paid for it, but they don't even manage to come out and say that outright in this "letter." There's always some level of faith involved in installing an early iOS jailbreak, because exploits often aren'…

I think one point you are making is unfair. Many (most?) previous jailbreaks not named PwnageTool or redsn0w have had a single, non-configurable payload containing Cydia and various Unix tools, with the understanding that once it's installed, the user can use Cydia to do whatever they want. In the case of my jailbreaks (years ago), I don't remember anyone ever expressing a desire for an alternate payload, presumably for that reason.

Of course there's a difference between Cydia and a closed source, less generally useful application that the jailbreakers were paid a large amount of money to include, but I wouldn't call it an issue of transparency/configurability as such.

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