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Re: Ask YC: Experiences with founder burnout?

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I can't work at any place for longer than 6 months. My resume is filled with companies every 6 months. Simply because I wake up with so much stress. My current job I've held longer for a year but it's getting to the point where I'm starting to dread going there despite what great opportunity and work environment it is. To me, this is just the way I'm wired. Take a break, you're in China, go see something. Do two weeks and refocus.

Re: Ask YC: Experiences with founder burnout?

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The fact that you can write such an articulate article tells me that you are much LESS burnout than you think you are. Give it some time and take care of the other two legs of your three-legged stool first (take care of your health and your family which I suspect are also in need of some repair). If you don't have your health and you don't have the support of your family, you don't have a fighting chance to re-start…

Thanks for your advice, and the interesting read. I've had the past couple of weeks off to think about everything, and I think that's why my posting is anywhere near articulate... Two weeks ago I talked to my partners and they recommended that I take some time to think about what I need to make myself healthy again, totally irrespective of what impact that would have on the business. It was today when I tried getting…

It takes a little bit of humor and a lot of humility (emphasizing the latter). And from your replys to the other comments, it sounds like you are well on your way already.

I am writing my own experience as a Crashed-and-"Turned" entrepreneur and I have a slot to publish next Thursday (10/25). Please check back.

http://www.lovemytool.com/blog/startup-for-less.html">Startup for Less - Survival Guide for Bootstrapping Entrepreneurs

Good luck.

--Denny--

Re: Ask YC: Experiences with founder burnout?

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As others have said, eat some really healthy food and do some serious exercise. This is the best medicine known to man for burnout.

If I begin to feel even slightly burned out, I make a beeline for Wagamama in Harvard Square (or Faneuil Hall). At the risk of sounding like an advertisement, the combination of the food and atmosphere there are anodyne when I get tired of coding. I hope they expand out from the Boston area soon so you West Coast people find out what you are missing...

Re: Ask YC: Experiences with founder burnout?

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When I was in grad school, I went through exactly what you are experiencing. My advisor sat down with me and said: "Take a month off. Go hang out with family and friends. Don't think about work. Eat well & exercise. Then we will talk." It was the best advice I ever got. I realized while I was away that I was working on the wrong problem, and that with some reframing there was a way out. You can't get that perspective…

You had a good adviser. Mine would grudgingly look the other way if I took a couple weeks of vacation (at best), or become actively hostile (at worst).

In any case, it's excellent advice. The only reason I was able to finish grad school was because I took a couple well-timed vacations when I was in exactly the mental state that the OP describes.

Re: Ask YC: Experiences with founder burnout?

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The fact that you can write such an articulate article tells me that you are much LESS burnout than you think you are. Give it some time and take care of the other two legs of your three-legged stool first (take care of your health and your family which I suspect are also in need of some repair). If you don't have your health and you don't have the support of your family, you don't have a fighting chance to re-start…

Thanks for your advice, and the interesting read. I've had the past couple of weeks off to think about everything, and I think that's why my posting is anywhere near articulate... Two weeks ago I talked to my partners and they recommended that I take some time to think about what I need to make myself healthy again, totally irrespective of what impact that would have on the business. It was today when I tried getting…

If you haven't done so, take a proper vacation. Leave your current environment behind completely, don't take a computer with you, and don't allow yourself to so much as think about work.

When I was in your situation, I tried to take pseudo-vacations (i.e. I stayed home for a few days, instead of going to work), but they were never enough. Only by forcing myself to make a drastic lifestyle change, was I able to break out of the fog.

Re: Ask YC: Experiences with founder burnout?

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Burnout feels incredibly illogical, because you can't do what you tell yourself you want to do. You can have a conversation with someone and get right fired up about an idea in-the-moment, but when you try to execute, a blanket of fog comes over your brain and you sit there like a deer in headlights. You can hardly perform at the level of a 10-year-old, no matter how much you tell myself that you want to continue.

I think this is your brain telling you that you would rather be doing something else.

Re: Ask YC: Experiences with founder burnout?

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I'm no startup founder, but I find that too much time in the technology trenches has a similar effect on me. I recommend, as do a few of the other posters, some time away, a change of scenery maybe, and good food mixed in with exercise. Then, try again, a bit slower this time. I cross-posted on your piece to http://blog.innovators-network.org The Innovators Network is a non-profit dedicated to bringing technology to startups, small businesses, non-profits, venture capitalists and intellectual property experts. Please visit us and help grown our community!

Best wishes for continued success,

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Re: Ask YC: Experiences with founder burnout?

#28
1. Take time away, find what relaxes you and do it 2. Get your sleep back in order 3. Make sure you're truly eating healthy 4. Workout to relieve the stress 5. Optional - Spiritual needs in order?

The best thing I can say is now that you've had it happen, you'll be much more sensitive to it and can recognize the warnings signs.

Also consider building in regular self-evaluation and relax time, it helps keep everything in balance.

Re: Ask YC: Experiences with founder burnout?

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I can't work at any place for longer than 6 months. My resume is filled with companies every 6 months. Simply because I wake up with so much stress. My current job I've held longer for a year but it's getting to the point where I'm starting to dread going there despite what great opportunity and work environment it is. To me, this is just the way I'm wired. Take a break, you're in China, go see something. Do two week…

Is it stress or boredom?

Finding a less stressful job doesn't seem like it should be that hard, but maybe I've just been lucky.

What I've found helps is getting some (and setting some) explicit expectations up front. If your company repeatedly violates these, it's probably time to move on.

Recently at the startup I work for, we were doing a big push for launch (80 hour weeks, etc). One night I finally hit a brick wall and just couldn't be there anymore, like when you're just sitting there looking at the screen not able to work. My PM was being slightly a dick and not hearing me on this, so Office Space style I snuck out the back and just left. The team even had a conversation about whether they should fire me over this infraction, as if I'm their 90-hour a week wage slave.

Another guy stuck it out, but resented the company so much for it that he quit a few days later and wrote a scathing letter to the all hands list / posted it on his blog. Point being, don't let anyone push you around.

And if you're a little savvy with clients / marketing yourself, just know that you can always make 2x as much as a full-time job by contracting, where in theory you should have more control over stress, schedule, etc. (ability to choose decent clients / fire sucky ones, etc)

Re: Ask YC: Experiences with founder burnout?

#30
Take as much time off as you need. I personally cant unwind my brain by going biking or sughtseeing. No matter what I do I'll end up thinking about work. I need to do something that keeps my mind on somethibg else. So I'll either read a lot of books, catch up on movies that I want to see or play computer games.
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