Yes please, make this choice least interesting/controversial as possible to make it even more irrelevant. The interesting question is: would it be someone else if Time wasn't US media?
Time Person of the Year 2013
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#22For crying out loud! What difference has the Pope made to the world (and do remember, the world does include non-Christian countries...or roughly 5 billion out of 7 billion people...and I'm not even getting into Catholics vs. non-Catholics here). Colour me cynical, but any publication that declares anyone other than Edward Snowden as the Person of the Year in 2013 has to have some pretty BIG reasons for doing so. And…
perhaps the rest of the world are not computer nerds
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#23Well, this Pope has been remarkably liberal and transformational. He's only remarkable in the context of the last few popes, who were insanely conservative. Francis is merely extremely conservative...
>Well, this Pope has been remarkably liberal and transformational Has he? I know that he has been saying a lot of stuff, but has he actually changed anything? I get the feeling that either he is full of shit, or that he doesn't actually have the power to carry out all the reforms that he says he will.
>Francis is merely extremely conservative...
I think it was sarcasm.
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#24For crying out loud! What difference has the Pope made to the world (and do remember, the world does include non-Christian countries...or roughly 5 billion out of 7 billion people...and I'm not even getting into Catholics vs. non-Catholics here). Colour me cynical, but any publication that declares anyone other than Edward Snowden as the Person of the Year in 2013 has to have some pretty BIG reasons for doing so. And…
Sure Snowden opened up a dialog when it comes to privacy etc. and that's a big deal for us because we live on the internet.
This pope however is so transformational he could seriously do a lot to bring peace to the world. Potential wise, this guy trumps Snowden on every level.
Take a moment to think about how powerful this guy really is.
P.S I'm muslim.
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#25Here's some info about the poll. It reports a few (too few) numbers. I suppose the editors didn't want to overwhelm us.
http://poy.time.com/2013/12/05/egypts-sisi-wins-readers-poll...
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#26For crying out loud! What difference has the Pope made to the world (and do remember, the world does include non-Christian countries...or roughly 5 billion out of 7 billion people...and I'm not even getting into Catholics vs. non-Catholics here). Colour me cynical, but any publication that declares anyone other than Edward Snowden as the Person of the Year in 2013 has to have some pretty BIG reasons for doing so. And…
Right now there are high hopes that the Pope will make a difference. Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize nine months after his election. For what reason if not high hopes? To a huge number of people on this planet the problems around the NSA are rather insignificant. EDIT: Typo
"Person of the year 2013" isn't "person we're hoping will make a difference in 2014", it's "person who has made a difference".
The pope can pretty much do nothing that will affect me, but the bullshit the NSA pulls affect me every day.
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#27For crying out loud! What difference has the Pope made to the world (and do remember, the world does include non-Christian countries...or roughly 5 billion out of 7 billion people...and I'm not even getting into Catholics vs. non-Catholics here). Colour me cynical, but any publication that declares anyone other than Edward Snowden as the Person of the Year in 2013 has to have some pretty BIG reasons for doing so. And…
Right now there are high hopes that the Pope will make a difference. Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize nine months after his election. For what reason if not high hopes? To a huge number of people on this planet the problems around the NSA are rather insignificant. EDIT: Typo
And in Obama's case, that turned out to be extremely premature. So learn from history? Then again didn't Time give this award to Hitler, too? So yeah, they don't exactly have a good record of learning from history.
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#28I'm continually amazed at the frequent and detailed coverage, by every major news organization, expended on every snore and snuffle emitted by this one weird cult.
I'm almost as amazed by my own persistent naivete: I went to Time fully expecting to see Snowden.
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#29Time awarding Snowden POY would them look out of the loop. That seems to be the logiical PR explanation. Vatican is really a diminished institution, while the NSA is ascendent. This just impugns the relevance of Time mag's editorial, in a way...which is not flattering.
Interesting comparison. The NSA will never need the Inquisition to assert its power though, they already know.
Knowledge is power.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Right now there are high hopes that the Pope will make a difference. Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize nine months after his election. For what reason if not high hopes? To a huge number of people on this planet the problems around the NSA are rather insignificant. EDIT: Typo
And in Obama's case, that turned out to be extremely premature. So learn from history? Then again didn't Time give this award to Hitler, too? So yeah, they don't exactly have a good record of learning from history.
Maybe Snowden beats Francis in the race for the next Nobel Peace Prize ;)