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SAP open sources UI development toolkit "SAPUI5"

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Re: SAP open sources UI development toolkit "SAPUI5"

#21

Oh my, that "Delphi mentality" in 2013..) ExtJS, if I remember correctly, is 5 or 6 years old already?) But we, no doubt, will read about ground-breaking innovations from their PR machine.) Is there any info which "startup" they have acquired or in what third-world country it was outsourced?)

what delphi have to do with extjs? what i knew, when old days the code come from yui ,extjs something around 2006 started

Re: SAP open sources UI development toolkit "SAPUI5"

#22

Oh my, that "Delphi mentality" in 2013..) ExtJS, if I remember correctly, is 5 or 6 years old already?) But we, no doubt, will read about ground-breaking innovations from their PR machine.) Is there any info which "startup" they have acquired or in what third-world country it was outsourced?)

There was nothing in your comment that made sense to me at all.

>> Oh my, that "Delphi mentality" in 2013..)

What's "Delphi mentality"?

>> ExtJS, if I remember correctly, is 5 or 6 years old already?

Why do you bring up ExtJS?

>> Is there any info which "startup" they have acquired or in what third-world country it was outsourced?

UI5 was developed in-house by SAP - not sure where it happened, but I think that particular bit of your comment reeks of arrogance and chauvinism

Re: SAP open sources UI development toolkit "SAPUI5"

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post #22

Oh my, that "Delphi mentality" in 2013..) ExtJS, if I remember correctly, is 5 or 6 years old already?) But we, no doubt, will read about ground-breaking innovations from their PR machine.) Is there any info which "startup" they have acquired or in what third-world country it was outsourced?)

There was nothing in your comment that made sense to me at all. >> Oh my, that "Delphi mentality" in 2013..) What's "Delphi mentality"? >> ExtJS, if I remember correctly, is 5 or 6 years old already? Why do you bring up ExtJS? >> Is there any info which "startup" they have acquired or in what third-world country it was outsourced? UI5 was developed in-house by SAP - not sure where it happened, but I think that partic…

> Why do you bring up ExtJS?

Because it is an JS UI library of the very same kind which were around for years, isn't it?

Not sure about arrogance, but yes, I do hate SAP because I have seen it in production.)

Re: SAP open sources UI development toolkit "SAPUI5"

#25
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not so long ago, SAP released a suite of applications under the brand "Fiori" - these apps are responsivea, have a uniform look and feel and are much more pleasing to the eye. Here is an example from the Demokit: https://openui5.hana.ondemand.com/test-resources/sap/m/demok...

This looks really good, but doesn't seem to be part of the open sourced UI? If it is, i can't find it.

It is part of the library - you'll find the Fiori controls under the sap.m (for "mobile") namespace in the API section.

It's the "SplitApp" element that gives you the nice looking, responsive container (I was not able to find a good code sample right away).

Re: SAP open sources UI development toolkit "SAPUI5"

#26
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was nothing in your comment that made sense to me at all. >> Oh my, that "Delphi mentality" in 2013..) What's "Delphi mentality"? >> ExtJS, if I remember correctly, is 5 or 6 years old already? Why do you bring up ExtJS? >> Is there any info which "startup" they have acquired or in what third-world country it was outsourced? UI5 was developed in-house by SAP - not sure where it happened, but I think that partic…

> Why do you bring up ExtJS? Because it is an JS UI library of the very same kind which were around for years, isn't it? Not sure about arrogance, but yes, I do hate SAP because I have seen it in production.)

Well, you could be forgiven for disliking SAP based on your experiences with their old UI - but UI5 is luckily their attempt to remedy the situation.

Re: SAP open sources UI development toolkit "SAPUI5"

#27
post #14

SAP Hana is actually a pretty interesting technology for developing data analysis website. It's a DB integrated with a web server and it automatically builds web services that let you query the data. It also provides a html/js framework to easily display and drill down (i think SAPUI5 is tied to that framework, or even is that framework). They even got an amazon AMI to start developping quickly without paying the lic…

SAP is a strangely technology-driven company on the inside.

They just solve a horrible problem: implementing everyones business process as they find them at the client, instead of the other way around, with legacy support for ages.

(disclaimer: I worked for SAP as an intern, a few years ago)

Re: SAP open sources UI development toolkit "SAPUI5"

#29
Having worked with SAP via ABAP and Java back in the day (and hating it) I can still feel the soul of SAP through these web apps. They still feel incredibly slow and bloated for what they do. Their market dominance is driven by the FUD of other technologies unfortunately, so they need to create their own front-end javascript framework to keep the mystique going about how computer systems are complicated without SAP. On the other hand, when the SAP people retire I'd imagine they'll be completely out of business because no CTO in 20 years is going to get behind an SAP implementation as they work today.

Re: SAP open sources UI development toolkit "SAPUI5"

#30

Oh my, that "Delphi mentality" in 2013..) ExtJS, if I remember correctly, is 5 or 6 years old already?) But we, no doubt, will read about ground-breaking innovations from their PR machine.) Is there any info which "startup" they have acquired or in what third-world country it was outsourced?)

Usually I wouldn't agree with this kind of comments, but this is the exception. We shouldn't forget that there is a multi-million dollar company behind this and it's clearly not just open-sourced for beneficiary reasons. Whatever the intent is, the result "look" meager. Maybe a focus on the novelty of their framework instead of the richness in UI-Controls could remedy that effect. It's either that, or hate, or both that people try to accumulate here.
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