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Re: Preorder your very own cold fusion reactor

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Post by headgasket »

fchollet wrote: post #17

If Rossi had a device that actually worked as advertised, the first thing he would do would be to set up multiple peer-reviewed demonstrations that would prove his claims in an undebatable way. As soon as incontrovertible evidence was provided, Rossi would become a media superstar, make history, and receive billions in pre-orders from all over the world. And if the physics was on Rossi's side, it would be very easy f…

If I understand correctly, it's either bologna or baloney. ;-)

Re: Preorder your very own cold fusion reactor

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Post by JanezStupar »

This is a big scam. Note that Rossi has previous experience with similar scams [1].

Note that basically any and all information on ECAT is distributed through a big spam network of SEO sites. I have been following this campaign (along with Steorn) loosely from the very begining.

All the usual telltale signs are there. The project is alway bound to be released in the next 4 months.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrea_Rossi_%28entrepreneur%29...

Re: Preorder your very own cold fusion reactor

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Post by nefarioustim »

rgrannell1 wrote: post #15

Hacker News + science is often a very bad mix. Any evidence this is actually a fusion device, not a chemical energy converter or a brick?

As you can see from the other comments above; the jury is firmly out on that one, but it's still an interesting story considering the "secret" test customer (which Wired UK says was DARPA[1]).

[1] http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-10/29/rossi-success

Re: Preorder your very own cold fusion reactor

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Post by charlysisto »

fchollet wrote: post #17

If Rossi had a device that actually worked as advertised, the first thing he would do would be to set up multiple peer-reviewed demonstrations that would prove his claims in an undebatable way. As soon as incontrovertible evidence was provided, Rossi would become a media superstar, make history, and receive billions in pre-orders from all over the world. And if the physics was on Rossi's side, it would be very easy f…

I followed this closely 2/3 years ago, skeptical, yet very excited by the possibilities of the outcome if true. I followed the heated debates on ecatnews.com, had a lot of fun but after almost 2 years of postponing a serious test, came to the conclusion it was a scam. I'm afraid this is yet another episode of a serie that just can't die.

Re: Preorder your very own cold fusion reactor

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Post by JanezStupar »

Ygg2 wrote: post #7

How much does this reactor cost? Can't someone buy and review it, test if it works, etc.?

> How much does this reactor cost?

Household version (released in 4 months, since 2010) is supposed to cost ~2k€. 1MW version purchased by "an unknown customer" (speculated to be acutally DARPA", supposedly costed 1MM$.

> Can't someone buy and review it, test if it works, etc.?

When making a purchase you sign an NDA. So, no.

Re: Preorder your very own cold fusion reactor

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Post by crusso »

DanBC wrote: post #13

> Many skeptics were left unconvinced. But the customer that the E-Cat was being tested for—which Wired UK says was rumored to be the US military's DARPA—was satisfied, and purchased the unit. This doesn't mean that DARPA is not a sceptic. It means the unit has passed the simplest test of "not a cardboard box covered in tin foil with a guy going 'Beep Boop' next to it". Now DARPA can buy a single unit and tear it apa…

If I were a military organization, I'd pay for the device in an escrow account with funds to be released upon validation that the device worked properly.
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