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The Ongoing Battle: NY vs. SF Tech Scene

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Re: The Ongoing Battle: NY vs. SF Tech Scene

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Post by eshvk »

beachstartup wrote: post #11
jboggan wrote: post #5

Meanwhile Silicon Beach soldiers on and the weather is looking mighty fine this time of year . . .

honestly the 9+ months of summer we've had is starting to get a little tiring. i want to start wear my hoodie again.

I am assuming I am missing the sarcasm or you don't live in San Francisco. We have barely a month of continuous sunshine and most of it is not during summer time. It is fog, fog and more fog.

Edit: nvm, I didn't know what Silicon Beach stands for. LA obviously has way better climes than SF.

Re: The Ongoing Battle: NY vs. SF Tech Scene

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Post by justmadhu »

eshvk wrote: post #13

How are salaries/living expenses in tech different in SF and NYC? Assuming you are living in SF or NYC, of course. Are they higher in NYC or lower or vice versa?

Agree with last comment -- Salary is roughly equivalent, but cost of living in NYC is much higher. While you can rent for cheap in NY due to transit, you can do that in SF too (see: Dogpatch). Cost of food, entertainment, etc. is way higher in NY. (Reference: I lived in NY for 5 yrs, and SF for about 6 months now)

Re: The Ongoing Battle: NY vs. SF Tech Scene

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Post by swang »

eshvk wrote: post #21
beachstartup wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

honestly the 9+ months of summer we've had is starting to get a little tiring. i want to start wear my hoodie again.

I am assuming I am missing the sarcasm or you don't live in San Francisco. We have barely a month of continuous sunshine and most of it is not during summer time. It is fog, fog and more fog. Edit: nvm, I didn't know what Silicon Beach stands for. LA obviously has way better climes than SF.

"Silicon Beach" is in LA

Re: The Ongoing Battle: NY vs. SF Tech Scene

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Post by bradleyjg »

eshvk wrote: post #20
w1ntermute wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would say both are lower in NYC. Salary is definitely lower, and rent is as well because the infinitely better public transit in NYC gives you more living options that have a short commute.

I am surprised that the rent is lower if you are living in NYC proper. I have one sample point for a friend who lives I think in the East Village. He pays $2300 for a studio. That seems about SF standard. (Well, not in the nicer parts of SF anyway.)

What exactly do you think the boundaries of NYC proper are? The East Village is one of the most expensive neighborhoods, not a typical one.

Re: The Ongoing Battle: NY vs. SF Tech Scene

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Post by wheaties »

eshvk wrote: post #13

How are salaries/living expenses in tech different in SF and NYC? Assuming you are living in SF or NYC, of course. Are they higher in NYC or lower or vice versa?

Who cares? you know what's in NYC that trumps that consideration? The opposite sex in balanced ratios. Finding your life partner far outweighs salary or living expenses any day of the week.

Re: The Ongoing Battle: NY vs. SF Tech Scene

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Post by rml »

rayiner wrote: post #22

I hate to say anything good about SF, but frankly only people in the NYC tech scene think they're in competition with SF. I doubt people in SF think much about the tech scene in NYC.

I work at a large tech co. in NYC, and we don't really talk about being in competition with SF at all. Besides, many of the really big SF-based cos. have offices here anyway.

Re: The Ongoing Battle: NY vs. SF Tech Scene

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Post by seiji »

jvalencia wrote: post #10
jbarrec wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This was very helpful. I plan on visiting SF sometime very soon. I want to be sure to hit Palo Alto, and Mountain View while I'm there!

Unless you are visiting companies or Stanford, it may not be terribly exciting ;-)

It's exciting to walk around Stanford slack jawed, staring at the giant stone architecture, landscaping, never-ending expanse of learning, research, and sleaze-trepreneur while constantly exclaiming internally, "How much money do these fuckers have?! Haven't they heard of normal sized buildings? Every lecture hall here is a goddamn castle!"

Re: The Ongoing Battle: NY vs. SF Tech Scene

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Post by seiji »

rml wrote: post #28
rayiner wrote: post #22

I hate to say anything good about SF, but frankly only people in the NYC tech scene think they're in competition with SF. I doubt people in SF think much about the tech scene in NYC.

I work at a large tech co. in NYC, and we don't really talk about being in competition with SF at all. Besides, many of the really big SF-based cos. have offices here anyway.

Google spent a few billion dollars to buy an office building: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/03/nyregion/03building.html?_... (they later expanded it for even more).

eBay's 6th Ave office costs $2-3 million per month (what's a million dollars between friends?).

(This isn't really relevant though. I just like reminding people huge sums of money are in play. Your little "$50k to $200k angel round" isn't as big a deal as you think.)

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