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Feds say Silk Road suspect’s computer shows he (thought he) plotted 6 murders

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Re: Feds say Silk Road suspect’s computer shows he (thought he) plotted 6 murders

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I'm extremely interested in who this 'redandwhite' guy is. It's still unclear if the murders even occurred, but if no one got killed then this might be one of the most effective cons (against DPR) I've ever seen.

It's the feds. They faked the hit.

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I can't get over how he wasn't using full disk encryption.

The way I see it there are a few possibilities: 1) He isn't the real DPR 2) He is the real DPR, but he's extremely inept and didn't get caught before due to dumb luck 3) He isn't the original DPR, but an inept person who took over to take the fall for the original DPR 4) He wanted to get caught?

5) Hubris.

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He kept a written journal of this stuff? Truly must not have expected to be caught, I can't imagine what world he was in inside his head to have believed that. Given the status of the website, it was only going to be a matter of time. Fairly convincing looking fake Australian license though, wish there was a better photo of it.

I can't imagine what world he was in inside his head

Perhaps the world of in for a penny, in for a pound

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I can't get over how he wasn't using full disk encryption.

The way I see it there are a few possibilities: 1) He isn't the real DPR 2) He is the real DPR, but he's extremely inept and didn't get caught before due to dumb luck 3) He isn't the original DPR, but an inept person who took over to take the fall for the original DPR 4) He wanted to get caught?

5) none of us are as smart as we think we are.

Re: Feds say Silk Road suspect’s computer shows he (thought he) plotted 6 murders

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The FBI appears to have seized a very large number of Bitcoins, posed as hitmen killing someone on his behalf, and they've got a wide variety of physical evidence like the fake IDs shown. I doubt they needed to take the risky step of faking extra evidence here.

they've got a wide variety of physical evidence like the fake IDs shown I'm old enough to remember when a fake ID meant you wanted to buy beer.

Well, you see, terrorists..

Re: Feds say Silk Road suspect’s computer shows he (thought he) plotted 6 murders

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The FBI appears to have seized a very large number of Bitcoins, posed as hitmen killing someone on his behalf, and they've got a wide variety of physical evidence like the fake IDs shown. I doubt they needed to take the risky step of faking extra evidence here.

they've got a wide variety of physical evidence like the fake IDs shown I'm old enough to remember when a fake ID meant you wanted to buy beer.

People looking to get into a bar don't get half a dozen different identities from multiple nations and states.

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The FBI appears to have seized a very large number of Bitcoins, posed as hitmen killing someone on his behalf, and they've got a wide variety of physical evidence like the fake IDs shown. I doubt they needed to take the risky step of faking extra evidence here.

I'll readily entertain the possibility of tangible artifacts over some bytestream any old day of the week. If he's busted with a bunch of fake IDs on his person, I'd consider that to be evidence proper. But anything transpiring in the netherworld of the internet needs to be taken with a grain of salt, especially when no real-world violence erupted. It may be possible that this is the guy. The evidence that rings true…

> If Ulbricht gets off on a technicality for the crime he's charged with, I wouldn't lose sleep over it. He's being charged with the hypothetical thoughtcrime of killing an internet persona (or two). To me, that feels like a technicality to begin with.

I'm sorry, we're considering hiring a hitman and paying them large amounts of money for what you believe to be a successful torture and execution as a thought crime now?!

Re: Feds say Silk Road suspect’s computer shows he (thought he) plotted 6 murders

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So, as an armchair juror, 3 enourmous questions spring to mind: 1. Why would a man, who allegedly built an extremely profitable empire using robust cryptographic software, not have enough expertise to employ powerful encypted countermeasures on his personal machine? Why wasn't his hard drive encrypted? Why were there no plans to erase and destroy data at a moment's notice, in the event that he gets arrested? Are we e…

1) He was arrogant and thought that they would never get that close to him. or He thought that keeping notes offline in an analog format would be safer than keeping digital copies. Also consider that for all the Trade Craft Bin Laden practiced to stay hidden. He was sloppy when it came to the computer drives and notes he kept in his house.

There's a certain commonality there. It didn't matter whether any of Bin Laden's hard drives were encrypted; he was dead when we found him and he knew it.

Likewise, from a practical stand point once the Feds came knocking at DPR's front door the jig was up. While the extra evidence will no doubt add a couple of nails to the coffin when this finally goes to trial, chances were that if he was tracked down at all, there would be enough evidence to convict him on that paper trail alone.

Chances are this is just the standard "it's a lot harder to commit a perfect crime than you think it is." But it might also not be irrational to focus exclusively on not getting caught, and not worry so hard about all the extra evidence that will be scooped up with you.

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An uproar from whom?

I don't know honestly, though you don't think it's possible the government would try to demonize someone in order to gain public support?

They certainly would, Martin Luther King Jr. would be one good example.

But I think they have public support in this case. Most people would be disgusted to know that Silk Road ever existed and would be happy it's gone.

But more relevant, perhaps, I don't believe that public support really matters here either way. DPR isn't a hero to many people, demonizing him isn't likely to affect popular opinion, or have any relevant political merit.

Trying to secure a conviction might be another matter, but even then I would think they would be certain that they had a solid case to begin with. I can't imagine they would fabricate evidence without anything concrete to back it up. It's not as if this is all they have, they would be insane to just toss some photoshops in to 'sweeten the pot' as it were.

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