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Re: Frontend: The web visual editor

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Post by BenjaminN »

ilaksh wrote: post #9
kayoone wrote: post #7

The open source part of it is cool, but i still have a couple of issues with it: + why do you need 75K as a minimum ? Sounds a bit high, even for 2 people + They say its built with node, but what about the frontend of frontend ? Only jquery ? + does it support bootstrap or other layouting frameworks? + when will they let people contribute to it ? Id really like something like this being open source, but in that case…

It is a CMS in itself. How is 75k high for two people? Are they supposed to commit to living below the poverty line?

In which country living with $75k is living below the poverty line exactly?

Re: Frontend: The web visual editor

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Post by sorich87 »

tmikaeld wrote: post #15
sorich87 wrote: post #13

A shameless plug for my own similar open source project with an already functional version http://www.brickseditor.com/ . It uses Bootstrap for the layout but there are plans to support other frameworks. It's built on AngularJS. I'm currently working on it full time. Maybe there could be some way we could collaborate if this Kickstarter isn't successful?

Very nice! Yours is much more than just a front-end editor, yours create complete apps. EDIT: And yours is not MIT licensed and has separate commercial licenses.

The goal is to allow make the whole development process, from prototyping to deployment, easier.

It's AGPL. The commercial licenses are for people or companies who may want to modify it without releasing their modifications back to the community. If they don't want to contribute their code, they will at least contribute financially.

Re: Frontend: The web visual editor

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Post by sorich87 »

BenjaminN wrote: post #19
sorich87 wrote: post #13

A shameless plug for my own similar open source project with an already functional version http://www.brickseditor.com/ . It uses Bootstrap for the layout but there are plans to support other frameworks. It's built on AngularJS. I'm currently working on it full time. Maybe there could be some way we could collaborate if this Kickstarter isn't successful?

Why would you do a 10 minutes introduction video ! I can't watch anything longer than 2 minutes.

Well, it's not really an introduction video. It's a video showing me building a contacts management app from start to finish. I plan to make a proper intro video later. As a one man project at this time, it's a little tricky to prioritise. There are so much things to do: adding new features, fixing bugs, creating a proper website, creating documentation, etc.

Re: Frontend: The web visual editor

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Post by alco »

It pains me to see how he repeats the same action for each subtitle-block element, doing the same thing 3 times total. Imagine you had a scrollable area with 20 blocks.

If it's a mockup editor, then it should be easy to customize from JS to make anything useful from the mockup.

If it's a site builder, better add support for templates, so that one would then be able to drag and drop data (e.g. json) onto the canvas and bind it to a template to automatically populate a whole set of elements at once.

P.S. No matter how slick your UI is, if it's not programmable, it's not useful.

Re: Frontend: The web visual editor

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Post by simonv3 »

BenjaminN wrote: post #21
ilaksh wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a CMS in itself. How is 75k high for two people? Are they supposed to commit to living below the poverty line?

In which country living with $75k is living below the poverty line exactly?

Developers have completely lost touch with what an average wage is for a single person family.

Re: Frontend: The web visual editor

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Post by camus2 »

kayoone wrote: post #7

The open source part of it is cool, but i still have a couple of issues with it: + why do you need 75K as a minimum ? Sounds a bit high, even for 2 people + They say its built with node, but what about the frontend of frontend ? Only jquery ? + does it support bootstrap or other layouting frameworks? + when will they let people contribute to it ? Id really like something like this being open source, but in that case…

> Abstracted reusable components to plug it into existing systems,

The problem is stuffs like that are supposed to run in the browser, the more bloated your code base is the worst performances you'll get.

Doesnt mean everything should be tightly coupled, my point is no matter what people say web apps are not desktop apps, web apps are slow,sometimes you need to trade decoupling for performances.

I think the last time a product like that got kickstarted it "won" more that 100K , so of course people are going to seek a similar amount of money for these kind of projects, though i dont believe these tools are that usefull in reality.

Re: Frontend: The web visual editor

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Post by pan69 »

sorich87 wrote: post #13

A shameless plug for my own similar open source project with an already functional version http://www.brickseditor.com/ . It uses Bootstrap for the layout but there are plans to support other frameworks. It's built on AngularJS. I'm currently working on it full time. Maybe there could be some way we could collaborate if this Kickstarter isn't successful?

The Database section needs a bit of work. When I click on Database I'm stuck. I HAVE to create a table which I then cannot rename. When I delete the table I'm in the same situation, lock down.

Other than that, very nice.

Re: Frontend: The web visual editor

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Post by izolate »

It irks me that this is called Frontend. It's not, it's design. Call it Design. Or Frontpage 2013. Whatever. Frontend is a development skill, which requires intricate knowledge of markup and javascript languages/frameworks.

Re: Frontend: The web visual editor

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Post by bbx »

Although Frontend is impressive, the target market is a bit blurry. As a front-end developer, I don't see myself using such a tool. And non tech-savvy people would probably feel a bit overwhelmed and would still have issues designing a decent layout considering it's not their job.

For some time, I've had in mind a service where people could easily build their websites. A bit like Squarespace (which is amazing) but with a different interface. For many clients who only need a homepage, a contact page, an about page, and some content pages, I usually end up building a custom WordPress theme because its admin interface is efficient and user-friendly, and because I have much experience in it. But still, I don't consider it the best tool for the job.

I'm not a great programmer, but I have UI, UX, and front-end skills. I'll probably try to develop a workable draft of this app I have in mind, but if anyone is interested in building an easy-to-use platform for non tech-savvy people, feel free to contact me. I have some ideas about how the workflow should be and what features it should have.

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