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Guys, stop sexualizing women in your mockups

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Re: Guys, stop sexualizing women in your mockups

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It doesn't look to me like any of the women in those examples were forced to pose a certain way. It's a problem if you make it a problem.

I didn't realize that a male-dominated overly-sexualized culture was ok as long as women aren't physically coerced into participating. Thanks for enlightening me!

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Re: Guys, stop sexualizing women in your mockups

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I'm not intending to offend or be sexist here but...

Do women actually have a problem looking at pictures of other women?

Whenever I see some media 'designed' for women, usually a magazine or a newspaper article, it's invariable about another woman. Either about fashion, health or just some celebrity gossip. The men that do appear tend to be unusually good looking.

The only conclusion I'm going to draw from this (and there are many), is that women don't seem to have a problem looking at pictures of other women.

Re: Guys, stop sexualizing women in your mockups

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I don't get the argument here. Look at a fashion magazine geared towards women, what do you think the ads look like in those magazines? Marketing copy with attractive people tends to convert better than marketing copy with unattractive people. Are we just supposed to sabotage our own marketing material in order to... what exactly? If sex sells its not because IT is a male dominated industry, its because sex sells to…

What's unethical about using sex to sell?

Our society is really fucked up and repressed about sex.

I'm really glad there's a man around to tell my partner that if she wears bathing suits to the beach and a man sees her backside that she's a victim instead of advocating she wear whatever the fuck she wants (including nothing) to the beach.

When my partner and I go to the beach we have to travel an extra 15 minutes because she'd rather go topless, that's fucked up and repressed. I can go around where ever I want with my top off, but thanks to white knights like the writer of the article she has to travel an extra 15 minutes lest a man (who is uncomfortable with naked pictures of his own gender) have to see her tits.

I'd be more impressed if people like the author could look at a woman wearing a bathing suit with out immediately thinking about sex than any blog post he could ever write about how women are sexualized. It's really fucked up that he can't think a woman at the beach in a bathing suit is doing anything other than being sexualized.

Re: Guys, stop sexualizing women in your mockups

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“Men can be our best advocates because the men who don’t respect women do respect men.”

I've never actually said that phrase, but if I did it wouldn't pertain to something as silly as this. Using super beautiful people in mockups or sexualized woman is immature but I'm far more concerned with people who think that woman 'just aren't smart enough to be programmers'.

Maybe this would have worked better in a more specific example. I interviewed at a place where there were so many little things like this that I didn't think I'd be comfortable working there. Sexualized images + servers named after porn actresses + the poster for the company holiday party included a scantily clad woman.

Re: Guys, stop sexualizing women in your mockups

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It doesn't look to me like any of the women in those examples were forced to pose a certain way. It's a problem if you make it a problem.

Yea, I like how you glossed over the shot of the woman in the bikini looking out to the ocean.

Out of curiosity, what is the problem with that picture?

Re: Guys, stop sexualizing women in your mockups

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I don't get the argument here. Look at a fashion magazine geared towards women, what do you think the ads look like in those magazines? Marketing copy with attractive people tends to convert better than marketing copy with unattractive people. Are we just supposed to sabotage our own marketing material in order to... what exactly? If sex sells its not because IT is a male dominated industry, its because sex sells to…

> You can't honestly expect IT to be the ones that pioneer more ethical marketing practices.

It's okay because everyone else is doing it?

Re: Guys, stop sexualizing women in your mockups

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I can’t stand this video. Watching toned men parade around with their junk sticking out makes me feel very uncomfortable. Obviously the author is not a fan of men in glittery pants, but I suspect that the video may not make quite the point intended.

My first thought was the author didn't understand the point of the video, but reading the next paragraph showed that he absolutely did. He's saying he was extremely uncomfortable watching the video, but this is what women have to deal with all the time . As uncomfortable as that video makes him, the original Robin Thicke video is just as bad for women (editorializing here: it's probably worse for women, because of th…

He's saying he was extremely uncomfortable watching the video, but this is what women have to deal with all the time.

I understand that, but am just remarking that the video just seems like a camp pastiche of a pop song with some men in glittery pants rather than an example of something particularly outlandish. The original seems pretty sleazy and fairly rubbish, but as far as sleazy music videos go it is definitely on the tame end of the scale.

It does make me wonder if the author is actually just expressing a form of puritanism here.

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