I am not concerned about AAPL or any cool products it makes. To me, Jobs is a visionary, and embodies what the company preaches "Think Different"! And agree with someone said here, his medical condition is his private matter, and we should respect that.
Jobs had liver transplant 2 months ago; expected to return to work as planned
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Re: Jobs had liver transplant 2 months ago; expected to return to work as planned
#22Reminds me of the fact fame and fortune aren't worth much compared with health. I wouldn't trade places with him [...takes another sip of wine.]
Jobs and Apple have changed the world in so many ways. WTF have you done with your life?
Quit downmodding this guy. Jesus, I hate the downmod arrow. Here's some elucidation:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north670.html
Read it. Time is the great equalizer. Warren Buffett is worth ten thousand times more than you are, assuming you are worth $5 million. But he is 78 years old. Not many people would want to trade places with him, one for one.
Steve Jobs is a better man than I'll ever be, but I'd rather be me than him, Is that strange? No! Because time treats humans like call options--decay is priced in, and hits zero at the set date. Steve Jobs is very, very close to zero, no matter his accomplishments.
Re: Jobs had liver transplant 2 months ago; expected to return to work as planned
#23Reminds me of the fact fame and fortune aren't worth much compared with health. I wouldn't trade places with him [...takes another sip of wine.]
"There is no justice, there is only me!" - Death, Discworld, Terry Pratchett
Re: Jobs had liver transplant 2 months ago; expected to return to work as planned
#24Bury this. Jobs's medical condition, whatever it is or was, is a private matter about which he has elected to not speak. He's met all reasonable obligations by announcing when he was going to be out and when he expected to return. The rest is small-minded gossip.
"If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity"
this is a private matter for steve jobs, and it felt like the community was supportive of giving him his privacy. i'm surprised this is still alive tbh.
Re: Jobs had liver transplant 2 months ago; expected to return to work as planned
#25Bury this. Jobs's medical condition, whatever it is or was, is a private matter about which he has elected to not speak. He's met all reasonable obligations by announcing when he was going to be out and when he expected to return. The rest is small-minded gossip.
Jobs is a figure of mythic proportions who is of keen interest to technologists, entrepreneurs, and the general public. He's been featured in movies; books have been written about him; he's granted the media many levels of access, from photos through interviews, to boost his products.
That attention can't be turned off like a spigot. Even if Jobs weren't still actively involved in Apple, people would be deeply interested (and concerned!) about his health, making it a legitimate area for reporters (and biographers!) to report about, as long as the information is obtained in a honest manner.
I believe it's a valid story (for both the WSJ and here) because we care about Jobs, we care about his creative output (including Apple), and we often best learn about things in life -- including dealing with health challenges -- by seeing how they affect prominent people.
Re: Jobs had liver transplant 2 months ago; expected to return to work as planned
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#27I find it odd that disclosing a liver transplant and not disclosing the condition that precipitated it is the way they chose to go here. I would think that once the transplant cat is out of the bag, you might as well be open about the condition. After all none of the reasons for needing a new liver are good and people will probably assume the worst as it is.
I didn't get the impression that this was an official disclosure.
It wasn't very clear... the fact that they cited an Apple spokeperson made me think there was some official disclosure, because they usually just not comment at all on something they haven't released.
Whether or not it was official, I don't think we need to know the exact condition. What would that change? I can't help him, and the one who can have probably been working on it for some time now.
Re: Jobs had liver transplant 2 months ago; expected to return to work as planned
#28Bury this. Jobs's medical condition, whatever it is or was, is a private matter about which he has elected to not speak. He's met all reasonable obligations by announcing when he was going to be out and when he expected to return. The rest is small-minded gossip.
Well, as the saying goes: "If you invite the press for the wedding they will also cover the divorce"
Steve Jobs invited the press to the wedding.
Re: Jobs had liver transplant 2 months ago; expected to return to work as planned
#29Bury this. Jobs's medical condition, whatever it is or was, is a private matter about which he has elected to not speak. He's met all reasonable obligations by announcing when he was going to be out and when he expected to return. The rest is small-minded gossip.
Well, as the saying goes: "If you invite the press for the wedding they will also cover the divorce" Steve Jobs invited the press to the wedding.
I am guessing it would also be reasonable to say it has a material affect on Apple as a publicly traded company, at least in the short term. And certainly the stock price.
But I wish him the best, it seems too soon for him to be leaving this, and I am sure he has more he wants to do.
Re: Jobs had liver transplant 2 months ago; expected to return to work as planned
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because it's basically placing monetary bets on another human being's health. Yeah, I know he's the key person, I know why they do it, I just think it's depressing that our society still hasn't risen above putting a dollar value on life.
Why should we rise above it? What's wrong with estimating somebody's worth in dollars?
I've written and deleted about 3 attempts at answering that question, not happy with any of them and obviously I have to get my thoughts in order. It's quite the "question for the ages" : D
I'll get back to you ...