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College Is A Waste. Replace It With Y Combinator

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Re: College Is A Waste. Replace It With Y Combinator

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post #6

Maybe rephrase "College Is a Waste for __fill_in_the_blank__ Majors" Is college a waste for Doctors & Lawyers? Do you want a doctor to learn his trade on-the-job? College is a big waste for a lot of majors, but certainly not in general...

Do you want a doctor to learn his trade on-the-job?

That's what rotations/residency/intership are. On-the-job training.

Re: College Is A Waste. Replace It With Y Combinator

#22
I would not advocate this myself. The advantages of college are not measured only in earnings. And even if they were, YC would only be suitable for a small percentage of students, because only a small percentage have the temperament to start a startup.

Re: College Is A Waste. Replace It With Y Combinator

#23
>What it teaches is out of date by the time students graduate

Subjects like math and algorithms (some of the most useful classes I took) do not go out of date by the time you graduate. I may have to learn a new algorithm later in life, but the building blocks that I got in the class are often necessary.

Re: College Is A Waste. Replace It With Y Combinator

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"It creates corporate drones"

There are plenty of ways of going to college without assuming a lifetime of debt. But no one is going to bring you a bunch of money. It's up to you to find it. See, you learned something from college before you even matriculated.

"What it teaches is out of date by the time students graduate"

In Current Events class, maybe. In classics, sciences, history, etc., etc., etc., hardly.

"It doesn’t teach the way people learn"

Maybe. Maybe not. What is does do is present enough options so that someone who wants to learn will find a way.

"Four years of information is too much to retain"

If you're going to college to learn "four years of information", maybe you shouldn't go. OTOH, if you're going to discover yourself, expand your horizons, learn how to learn, and build a foundation for a better life, who cares how much "information" you remember?

"Its promise is a hoax"

Anyone lazy enough to go to college and expect the world on a silver platter deserves whatever they get.

"The truth is that college is one big party"

Any your complaint is...?

Re: College Is A Waste. Replace It With Y Combinator

#25
post #3

> The truth is that college is one big party I believe 100% this is THE most important part of college/university level education. The education part is minor because if you have a subject interest it will come fairly naturally (I do think if you have to force knowledge in there is no point trying). Partying is socialising, building a circle of friends/associates and generally learning how humanity interacts. Indeed…

"Partying is socialising, building a circle of friends/associates and generally learning how humanity interacts."

So is work, except you're more likely to remember it the next day.

Re: College Is A Waste. Replace It With Y Combinator

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post #10

I'm a student who is halfway done with a degree in Entrepreneurship. I often ask myself what the hell I'm doing, and the answer is simple--society says I have to. Now, I realize its all one big hoax, but I've stuck with it because of the relationships I have built thus far. With that having been said, I would happily give my $30,000/year in student loans to an incubator program that could actually get me started. May…

Degree in Entrepreneurship? I've not heard of this, and (off the bat) it seems like it might be one huge contradiction, or a way for a school to bundle a bunch of pre-existing courses together into something "new and innovative" that they can advertise.

Can you discuss your program a bit?

Re: College Is A Waste. Replace It With Y Combinator

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post #17

We are not the mixergy RSS feed. Everything created there doesn't have to show up here [make up your own comments about the community expanding and contentless articles appearing with high upvote counts here]. Also, you're not helping your point: "I bet you that a collage graduate learns more in her first year on the job than she does in all four years in college." Interestingly though, a "collage graduate" is a good…

I think the grandstanding fist pump should disqualify mixergy from Hacker News altogether.

Re: College Is A Waste. Replace It With Y Combinator

#29
College is not a waste if you want a great education. Where else can you interact with and be taught from the world's best in nearly any course of study? In college you get a mind opening view of what any one subject has to offer, rather than a narrow view driven by a purpose for learning that material. That broad exposure translates to being a more effective thinker and problem solver.

And to counter a few more of his points: 1) The fundamentals don't change every four months. 2) Lectures can be dry, but it doesn't mean you don't learn from them. And you DO get to put it into practice when you have labs or personal projects (often inspired by the new material you learned).

When I read that "many students" would do better as entrepreneurs out of high school, I take that as some significant amount of high school graduates. The vast majority of entering freshman really need the time and environment a university offers to develop their skills and passions (ie. figure out what they want to do and what they're good at.).

I'd be afraid that the students who would do the best without college are the students we need most to pursue educations in engineering and sciences. It would be unfortunate if they spent their resources starting a company which likely wouldn't succeed instead of getting an education that would bear better fruit down the road.

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