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Re: Firefox 25 is released

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Jeez, why can't browser developers be more considerate of the poor put-upon user agent-detecting site developer?

Haha, are you making a reference to this gem: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=765645 ?

Wow. So that's what a sense of entitlement looks like!

Re: Firefox 25 is released

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post #9
post #8

How did firefox get development stagnate so badly? We have more workarounds and polyfills for dealing with firefox than we do for dealing with IE now, it is ridiculous.

Development isn't stagnant. They have releases on a 6-week schedule now, that's why each update is smaller. Because of the more frequent releases, features get released as soon as they're ready instead of waiting months or years for a "major release" like they used to.

I did not suggest the size of any given update, or the schedule they are released at was evidence of stagnation. The fact that firefox is the problem browser now instead of IE is what I pointed to. It is nearly 2014. Firefox still doesn't have html 5 form elements even. Remember making internal use sites and telling people "we're not supporting IE, use firefox"? Now we're doing "we're not supporting firefox, use chrome or IE or your phone".

Re: Firefox 25 is released

#24

I find it irritating that Mozilla now herds its Firefox users toward the Stub installer, and not the full offline-install redistributable binary. The actual download itself is available on the "Systems & Languages" page: > https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/ This kind of download is important, when you want to try out a new release, without committing yourself to it. For example, let's say you want to load it…

I think the stub is for an improved experience for the average user with slow internet access. You're likelier to download and run a 1MB file and then wait for the install to finish, than you are to wait for a 25MB file to finish downloading in the first place.

(I wonder if they push the stub so as to collect more (system) information without having to say that it's Firefox itself that's collecting that information.)

Re: Firefox 25 is released

#25

I find it irritating that Mozilla now herds its Firefox users toward the Stub installer, and not the full offline-install redistributable binary. The actual download itself is available on the "Systems & Languages" page: > https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/ This kind of download is important, when you want to try out a new release, without committing yourself to it. For example, let's say you want to load it…

I think the stub is for an improved experience for the average user with slow internet access. You're likelier to download and run a 1MB file and then wait for the install to finish, than you are to wait for a 25MB file to finish downloading in the first place. (I wonder if they push the stub so as to collect more (system) information without having to say that it's Firefox itself that's collecting that information.)

> I wonder if they push the stub so as to collect more (system) information without having to say that it's Firefox itself that's collecting that information.

That sounds rather unlikely.

Re: Firefox 25 is released

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the stub is for an improved experience for the average user with slow internet access. You're likelier to download and run a 1MB file and then wait for the install to finish, than you are to wait for a 25MB file to finish downloading in the first place. (I wonder if they push the stub so as to collect more (system) information without having to say that it's Firefox itself that's collecting that information.)

> I wonder if they push the stub so as to collect more (system) information without having to say that it's Firefox itself that's collecting that information. That sounds rather unlikely.

Should be not too hard to verify.

Re: Firefox 25 is released

#29

I find it irritating that Mozilla now herds its Firefox users toward the Stub installer, and not the full offline-install redistributable binary. The actual download itself is available on the "Systems & Languages" page: > https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/ This kind of download is important, when you want to try out a new release, without committing yourself to it. For example, let's say you want to load it…

I think the stub is for an improved experience for the average user with slow internet access. You're likelier to download and run a 1MB file and then wait for the install to finish, than you are to wait for a 25MB file to finish downloading in the first place. (I wonder if they push the stub so as to collect more (system) information without having to say that it's Firefox itself that's collecting that information.)

Yeah, that is if you have dial-up. Even the slowest DSL is enough for 768KBps.

Re: Firefox 25 is released

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post #23
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Development isn't stagnant. They have releases on a 6-week schedule now, that's why each update is smaller. Because of the more frequent releases, features get released as soon as they're ready instead of waiting months or years for a "major release" like they used to.

I did not suggest the size of any given update, or the schedule they are released at was evidence of stagnation. The fact that firefox is the problem browser now instead of IE is what I pointed to. It is nearly 2014. Firefox still doesn't have html 5 form elements even. Remember making internal use sites and telling people "we're not supporting IE, use firefox"? Now we're doing "we're not supporting firefox, use chro…

I'm not sure what you mean. As far as I can remember, Firefox has had HTML 5 forms since Firefox 4 (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Guide/HTML/Form...).

What exactly are you talking about?

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