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Upcoming Nexus 5 leaks in white, Nov. 1 launch date reported

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Re: Upcoming Nexus 5 leaks in white, Nov. 1 launch date reported

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Post by Osmium »

gailees wrote: post #6

The Nexus 5 has the opportunity to pull a lot of disenchanted iPhone users to Android. What would it take for you to make the switch?

I've wanted to play around with one for a while, but don't want to commit until I've had a chance to live with it for a month. So, what would it take? A low price. If they offer a model at Nexus 4 prices, maybe...

I'd also like stronger per-app privacy controls and sandboxing. I have this vague idea that installing the wrong package on an Android phone can mean doom, and that many apps request permissions that are far too broad and on install time (rather than when they need them). I'm unsure whether I'm just ill-informed on this or not.

That said, I'm not a disenchanted iPhone user so perhaps your question wasn't aimed at me. I recently upgraded to a 5s and am very happy.

Re: Upcoming Nexus 5 leaks in white, Nov. 1 launch date reported

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Post by selmnoo »

ojbyrne wrote: post #19
daurnimator wrote: post #15

If only the phone was smaller :( I don't understand these screens so big I need two hands to use the device.

Because big phones sell well. I think that the decrease in usability is partly compensated by usefulness (it's more pleasant to watch video on a bigger device) and partly compensated by status (my phone, and therefore my penis, is bigger than yours).

Woah, decrease in usability? Let's slow down there a little bit.

There's a legitimate case for big phones, in that they make typing somewhat easier. Typing on my iphone is pretty annoying to me, so I'm actually happy that a 5 inch size is coming to be more standardized.

Re: Upcoming Nexus 5 leaks in white, Nov. 1 launch date reported

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Post by jrockway »

ars wrote: post #11
astrada wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that probably it will get out of stock quickly. It's a marketing move that gets reported by major news sites, and raises interest among non-tech people. If everything goes smoothly, probably it will get less coverage.

Ah, so then you make lots of stock, but hold it in reserve. Wait for out of stock reporting, and add a waiting list, then start shipping the reserve after a week of out of stock. Everyone wins: People get their item, and the media gets to report out of stock.

I've never been a fan of this. If I can't get it with guaranteed overnight shipping for $3.99, I'm not buying it.

Re: Upcoming Nexus 5 leaks in white, Nov. 1 launch date reported

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Post by w1ntermute »

moskie wrote: post #18

Is there any hope it will be available on Verizon? If it's available on Verizon, it's a no-brainer purchase for me. If it's not.... it's gonna have to be a super great phone to convince me not to get a different comparable phone on Verizon.

> Is there any hope it will be available on Verizon?

I highly doubt it. I would recommend getting either the Moto X (if you're OK with a subpar camera) or the LG G2 (if you're OK with shitty default software and a slightly larger screen). The latter seems like the better option, since you can just install CyanogenMod. Plus the G2's camera is even better than the Nexus 5's will be.

Re: Upcoming Nexus 5 leaks in white, Nov. 1 launch date reported

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Post by chimeracoder »

moskie wrote: post #18

Is there any hope it will be available on Verizon? If it's available on Verizon, it's a no-brainer purchase for me. If it's not.... it's gonna have to be a super great phone to convince me not to get a different comparable phone on Verizon.

> Is there any hope it will be available on Verizon?

Almost none.

Verizon has all but stated they're not interested in carrying another Nexus phone, since it's "incompatible with their business strategy" (ie, they can't control updates on it and install bloatware on it).

As for the Nexus 5 itself, the leaked FCC diagrams show that it doesn't even have the correct radios to work on Verizon's network.

> If it's not.... it's gonna have to be a super great phone to convince me not to get a different comparable phone on Verizon.

I haven't found any other phone on Verizon compelling enough to make me consider upgrading to a Verizon phone from my Galaxy Nexus. When the next Nexus comes out, I'm probably ditching them for T-Mobile, even though I still have unlimited 4G data on Verizon.

I'm just completely fed up with Verizon's inane moves to keep all phones on their network locked down (they even forced the HTC One bootloader to be locked). No more.

Re: Upcoming Nexus 5 leaks in white, Nov. 1 launch date reported

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Post by MAGZine »

Osmium wrote: post #21
gailees wrote: post #6

The Nexus 5 has the opportunity to pull a lot of disenchanted iPhone users to Android. What would it take for you to make the switch?

I've wanted to play around with one for a while, but don't want to commit until I've had a chance to live with it for a month. So, what would it take? A low price. If they offer a model at Nexus 4 prices, maybe... I'd also like stronger per-app privacy controls and sandboxing. I have this vague idea that installing the wrong package on an Android phone can mean doom, and that many apps request permissions that are fa…

In regards to too generous permissions--I can certainly see that sometimes. The one flashlight app I was using wanted network connectivity, access to contacts, etc. The solution? Find a new one that only needs use of camera hardware. Not always the easiest thing to do, but certainly an option.

In 4.3, they silently included the App Ops configuration to offer gating of permissions. Mixology doesn't need Calendar access? Turn it off.

BUT, that said, plenty of apps DON'T ask for too broad permissions, and sometimes you'll even find that app devs will put notes in the patch notes explaining why they need to increase permission scope (if they do).

I don't know about this feeling about installing the wrong package can mean doom. Doom in what way? This seems a bit silly.

Re: Upcoming Nexus 5 leaks in white, Nov. 1 launch date reported

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Post by astrada »

Osmium wrote: post #21
gailees wrote: post #6

The Nexus 5 has the opportunity to pull a lot of disenchanted iPhone users to Android. What would it take for you to make the switch?

I've wanted to play around with one for a while, but don't want to commit until I've had a chance to live with it for a month. So, what would it take? A low price. If they offer a model at Nexus 4 prices, maybe... I'd also like stronger per-app privacy controls and sandboxing. I have this vague idea that installing the wrong package on an Android phone can mean doom, and that many apps request permissions that are fa…

> So, what would it take? A low price. If they offer a model at Nexus 4 prices, maybe...

Previous leak shows prices starting at $349 for the 16GB model (http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/17/4850738/nexus-5-google-pl...)

Re: Upcoming Nexus 5 leaks in white, Nov. 1 launch date reported

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Post by w1ntermute »

chimeracoder wrote: post #25
moskie wrote: post #18

Is there any hope it will be available on Verizon? If it's available on Verizon, it's a no-brainer purchase for me. If it's not.... it's gonna have to be a super great phone to convince me not to get a different comparable phone on Verizon.

> Is there any hope it will be available on Verizon? Almost none. Verizon has all but stated they're not interested in carrying another Nexus phone, since it's "incompatible with their business strategy" (ie, they can't control updates on it and install bloatware on it). As for the Nexus 5 itself, the leaked FCC diagrams show that it doesn't even have the correct radios to work on Verizon's network. > If it's not....…

> I haven't found any other phone on Verizon compelling enough to make me consider upgrading to a Verizon phone from my Galaxy Nexus.

Like I mentioned in another comment, both the Moto X and the LG G2 are great upgrades on Verizon from the Galaxy Nexus.

> I'm probably ditching them for T-Mobile, even though I still have unlimited 4G data on Verizon.

Make sure you take T-Mo for a test drive first, to make sure you actually get reception everywhere you frequent.

Also, I've heard you can sell your unlimited data plan online for several hundred dollars.

Re: Upcoming Nexus 5 leaks in white, Nov. 1 launch date reported

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Post by ruswick »

gailees wrote: post #6

The Nexus 5 has the opportunity to pull a lot of disenchanted iPhone users to Android. What would it take for you to make the switch?

I have been an iPhone user for upwards of three years, and used an iPod touch for two years prior to that. I hate iOS 7. The aesthetic is too bare and feels excessively simplistic, and the new animations have totally stripped me of the ability to perform multiple operations in quick succession. The OS looks worse and performs worse. (Not to mention the sheer volume of bugs that Apple neglected to fix. I might be able to tolerate iOS 7 if it hadn't broken the built-in dictionary, my lock button, and myriad other things. Unfortunately, it's been weeks and Apple has not issued fixes for any of these bugs.)

I've polled a fairly large number of students at my high school, and not one has reflected favorably on the change from iOS 6 to iOS 7. I'm not sure how other demographics feel about iOS 7, but the opinion of my cohort seems to be overwhelmingly negative.

iOS 7 has caused a major regression in the functionality and enjoyability of Apple's mobile products, and I think a lot of people are unhappy with the changes Apple made.

I've been eagerly anticipating the Nexus 5 since the day of iOS 7's release. Nothing will make me happier than to never have to tolerate iOS 7 again.

Re: Upcoming Nexus 5 leaks in white, Nov. 1 launch date reported

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Post by ruswick »

aaronbrethorst wrote: post #7
gailees wrote: post #6

The Nexus 5 has the opportunity to pull a lot of disenchanted iPhone users to Android. What would it take for you to make the switch?

Who are these disenchanted iPhone users? I'm not trying to bait you, I'm genuinely curious who you think will switch. iPhone users are generally considered to have the highest satisfaction of any mobile phone users. http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/10/17/jd-power-ranks-app...

iOS 7 is pretty universally loathed among people I know...
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