I kinda trust a person whose best advice is "trust math". Of course, to a certain level as still the best advice is "trust noone"..
Can I Be Trusted?
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#22> I'd help, but that seems unfair.
He missed the perfect opportunity to quote HPMOR.
> I have heard such requests before, and experience leads me to refuse. Either I will do too good a job of prosecuting myself, and convince you that I am guilty - or else you will decide that my prosecution was too half-hearted, and that I am guilty.
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#23You'd have to define trust to understand and then answer the question. Trust is the inverse of what most people think it is. Trust isn't about what someone will do, it's about what they won't do. You might trust a guy with your life by asking him to hold a ladder whilst you climb up it, but you probably wouldn't trust the same guy with your medical history and insights into your state of mind and personal relationshi…
When it comes to Bruce Schneier the question is "Do you trust Bruce Schneier?", but this seems to just beg the next question, "To not do what?".
If you had read really short article, the "next question" is: "To not mislead us about what he has read in the leaked NSA documents."
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#24Verify and Trust
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#25You'd have to define trust to understand and then answer the question. Trust is the inverse of what most people think it is. Trust isn't about what someone will do, it's about what they won't do. You might trust a guy with your life by asking him to hold a ladder whilst you climb up it, but you probably wouldn't trust the same guy with your medical history and insights into your state of mind and personal relationshi…
When it comes to Bruce Schneier the question is "Do you trust Bruce Schneier?", but this seems to just beg the next question, "To not do what?". If you had read really short article, the "next question" is: "To not mislead us about what he has read in the leaked NSA documents."
I did read it, and the answer remains the same:
> I trust Bruce Schneier to not sacrifice his own principles and belief system in backdooring some code or otherwise compromising his work.
To mislead would be to compromise his own work.
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#26You'd have to define trust to understand and then answer the question. Trust is the inverse of what most people think it is. Trust isn't about what someone will do, it's about what they won't do. You might trust a guy with your life by asking him to hold a ladder whilst you climb up it, but you probably wouldn't trust the same guy with your medical history and insights into your state of mind and personal relationshi…
Astute. edit: thanks (didn't know what a Loki was)
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#27You'd have to define trust to understand and then answer the question. Trust is the inverse of what most people think it is. Trust isn't about what someone will do, it's about what they won't do. You might trust a guy with your life by asking him to hold a ladder whilst you climb up it, but you probably wouldn't trust the same guy with your medical history and insights into your state of mind and personal relationshi…
Astute. edit: thanks (didn't know what a Loki was)
Loki is a Norse God.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loki
He's frequently referred to as the `God of Mischief` in that he's a trickster and capricious by nature.
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#28You'd have to define trust to understand and then answer the question. Trust is the inverse of what most people think it is. Trust isn't about what someone will do, it's about what they won't do. You might trust a guy with your life by asking him to hold a ladder whilst you climb up it, but you probably wouldn't trust the same guy with your medical history and insights into your state of mind and personal relationshi…
Astute. edit: thanks (didn't know what a Loki was)
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#29You'd have to define trust to understand and then answer the question. Trust is the inverse of what most people think it is. Trust isn't about what someone will do, it's about what they won't do. You might trust a guy with your life by asking him to hold a ladder whilst you climb up it, but you probably wouldn't trust the same guy with your medical history and insights into your state of mind and personal relationshi…
I think I get your point, but I feel you should try to bring it in a different way, without reverting to pure semantics play. To illustrate: I might as well say "In the case of that ladder, that the guy will hold on tight. In the case of the physician and psychiatrist that they will keep your information for themselves." And suddenly trust is all about what someone will do.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
When it comes to Bruce Schneier the question is "Do you trust Bruce Schneier?", but this seems to just beg the next question, "To not do what?". If you had read really short article, the "next question" is: "To not mislead us about what he has read in the leaked NSA documents."
I did read it, and the answer remains the same: > I trust Bruce Schneier to not sacrifice his own principles and belief system in backdooring some code or otherwise compromising his work. To mislead would be to compromise his own work.
That would depend on what his work actually is. If it's to promote the understanding and application of cryptography and security, as we believe it to be, then misleading people would certainly compromise what he does. If, on the other hand, Bruce is an NSA shill, then misleading people would in no way compromise his work - it would be his work.
As much as we all might respect Bruce we should remain reasonably open to the idea that he can be wrong (maliciously or otherwise). In essence, we shouldn't let a single expert, now matter how good they appear to be, become a single point of failure in our understanding of a complex subject.