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Usually, when discussing human diet: carbohydrates, fat, and protein. These comprise the energy content of food.
Ok, just what I thought. But how does processing destroy them?
The problem with taking too many vitamins
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Re: The problem with taking too many vitamins
#22Everything I've read about this in recent years seems to boil down to one simple rule of thumb: Supplement vitamin D and forget about everything else.
Re: The problem with taking too many vitamins
#23Everything I've read about this in recent years seems to boil down to one simple rule of thumb: Supplement vitamin D and forget about everything else.
Re: The problem with taking too many vitamins
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ok, just what I thought. But how does processing destroy them?
That's something you really need to do your own research on, it's a big topic. Start by looking up 'complex carbohydrates' and consider that while they are made up of basic sugars, in nature the breakdown of those complex carbs would be done mostly in the gut rather than through refinement in a sugar plant. A pediatrician friend of mine doesn't even believe in consuming juice, because she considers the body is better…
Dietitians in the UK recommend that people are cautious with juices and smoothies because of the amount of sugar, and they recommend that people just eat the fruit and drink water. Especially for children, the high sugar and acid is tricky for teeth.
(I agree that the hunch seems reasonable. But then, those are the things that need research, to combat my biases.)
Re: The problem with taking too many vitamins
#25I don't feel this is a very good article. IMHO the key to understanding vitamin supplementation is first, to know which are fat-soluble (and will be stored by your body) and which are water-soluble (and will be flushed by your body when you urinate). So, it is almost impossible to over-dose on Vitamin C, since, your body will easily eliminate anything it doesn't need - C is water-soluble. This article covers the diff…
Solubility is important but even though vitamin c is soluble, taking too much is quite harmful aggregrated over longer time frames. http://m.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/07/the-vitamin-...
Which statement in that article do you believe supports the position that taking too much vitamin C is "quite harmful"?
Re: The problem with taking too many vitamins
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Solubility is important but even though vitamin c is soluble, taking too much is quite harmful aggregrated over longer time frames. http://m.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/07/the-vitamin-...
> even though vitamin c is soluble, taking too much is quite harmful aggregrated over longer time frames Which statement in that article do you believe supports the position that taking too much vitamin C is "quite harmful"?
Here's a report of a tiny old study (http://www.nytimes.com/1998/04/09/us/taking-too-much-vitamin...)
> 'The vitamin C in supplements mobilizes harmless ferric iron stored in the body and converts it to harmful ferrous iron, which induces damage to the heart and other organs,'' Dr. Herbert said in an interview.
> ''Unlike the vitamin C naturally present in foods like orange juice, vitamin C as a supplement is not an antioxidant,'' Dr. Herbert said. ''It's a redox agent -- an antioxidant in some circumstances and a pro-oxidant in others.''
This was for the relatively small amount of 500mg per day.
I haven't read the Wikipedia references, so maybe they're all trash, but (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_C_megadosage#Possible_...)
> Although vitamin C can be well tolerated at doses well above the RDA recommendations, adverse effects can occur at doses above 3 grams per day though overload is unlikely. The common 'threshold' side effect of megadoses is diarrhea. Other possible adverse effects include increased oxalate excretion and kidney stones, increased uric-acid excretion, systemic conditioning ("rebound scurvy"), preoxidant effects, iron overload, reduced absorption of vitamin B12 and copper, increased oxygen demand, and acid erosion of the teeth with chewing ascorbic-acid tablets.[25] In addition, one case has been noted of a woman who had received a kidney transplant followed by high-dose vitamin C and died soon afterwards as a result of calcium oxalate deposits that destroyed her new kidney. Her doctors concluded that high-dose vitamin C therapy should be avoided in patients with renal failure.[26]
And there is an LD50 for rats, although that's 11.9 g per kg. (6 ft adult is 85 kg, that's over a kilogram of vitamin C to reach the same level. That would be 1,000 tablets of 1,000 mg vitamin C.
Re: The problem with taking too many vitamins
#27I don't feel this is a very good article. IMHO the key to understanding vitamin supplementation is first, to know which are fat-soluble (and will be stored by your body) and which are water-soluble (and will be flushed by your body when you urinate). So, it is almost impossible to over-dose on Vitamin C, since, your body will easily eliminate anything it doesn't need - C is water-soluble. This article covers the diff…
We'd be sitting and coding for a few hours, and we're all just internally waiting for somebody to utter the magic words "...coffee run?".
At a moments notice we're all out the door, headphones are smashed, phones are flung, chairs are tipped over, papers are in the air!
Re: The problem with taking too many vitamins
#28I don't feel this is a very good article. IMHO the key to understanding vitamin supplementation is first, to know which are fat-soluble (and will be stored by your body) and which are water-soluble (and will be flushed by your body when you urinate). So, it is almost impossible to over-dose on Vitamin C, since, your body will easily eliminate anything it doesn't need - C is water-soluble. This article covers the diff…
In school, I was taught a mnemonic for fat soluble vitamins: DEAK. In other words, you want to "deke" [1] out of the way from these vitamins. You want to watch how much of vitamins D, E, A, K you ingest because they are fat soluble and you can easily overdose on them (unlike vitamin C). It's not a catch-all but it helps when you are taking vitamins. [1] it's a play on words and a homonym, "deke" comes from hockey whe…
For those of us who want an insurance policy, have you got any recommendations on what multi-vitamins to aim for (a particular brand, maybe that you take?) Are all brands equal?
Re: The problem with taking too many vitamins
#29I used to eat the gummy vitamins like candy, I got Hypervitaminosis, and my hair started to fall out. I thought I had a horrible disease. Then we figured it out. It wasn't much fun.
Re: The problem with taking too many vitamins
#30I don't feel this is a very good article. IMHO the key to understanding vitamin supplementation is first, to know which are fat-soluble (and will be stored by your body) and which are water-soluble (and will be flushed by your body when you urinate). So, it is almost impossible to over-dose on Vitamin C, since, your body will easily eliminate anything it doesn't need - C is water-soluble. This article covers the diff…
In school, I was taught a mnemonic for fat soluble vitamins: DEAK. In other words, you want to "deke" [1] out of the way from these vitamins. You want to watch how much of vitamins D, E, A, K you ingest because they are fat soluble and you can easily overdose on them (unlike vitamin C). It's not a catch-all but it helps when you are taking vitamins. [1] it's a play on words and a homonym, "deke" comes from hockey whe…