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E-ZPasses Get Read All Over New York (Not Just At Toll Booths)

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post #8

Is there any way to install a switch to kill the tag when you don't plan on using it? If that's possible, how difficult would it be to control this on/off switch with a spare smart phone based on approved GPS location?

You could put a shunt across the antenna.

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#22
post #8

Is there any way to install a switch to kill the tag when you don't plan on using it? If that's possible, how difficult would it be to control this on/off switch with a spare smart phone based on approved GPS location?

Yes, you can put it in a special bag that blocks its signals. If you buy a FastTrak device for the SF Bay Area, it actually comes in the bag. Still, you have a license plate. (Unless you are like Steve Jobs, and lease a new car every 6 months)

The "special bag" is just an ESD bag, isn't it? You can find these pretty cheap anywhere if you don't have any on hand.

http://www.amazon.com/Antistatic-Bags-Resealable-6X10-Pack/d...

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post #8

Is there any way to install a switch to kill the tag when you don't plan on using it? If that's possible, how difficult would it be to control this on/off switch with a spare smart phone based on approved GPS location?

I had a rental car in Boston a few weeks ago and the rental car came with an EZ-Pass that flipped into a little box. I was told by the rental company that if I didn't want to use it and pay cash tolls, just keep it inside the box. So I'm assuming the box stops the readers from reading the pass.

Do they all do this? I live in a state that has exactly two toll roads, so I'm not sure what SOP is for those kind of things.

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#24
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FastTrak (used in the SF Bay Area) have a warning, laying this out when you buy the devices. You don't actually need the device though, as each bridge using it also uses cameras to read license plates. It's more convenient this way, as you just need to register your vehicle on their website.

I don't keep plates on my car because of the abundance of plate tracking applications in use by the government and private companies.

Time for a kickstarter for an e-ink license plate? Tie it to a GPS with known locations of cameras, and change your tag for each picture?

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#25
post #6

I had thought it was common knowledge that E-ZPasses were used to collect real-time traffic estimates; certainly I've known for years that i-Pass (the Illinois equivalent) was used for this purpose. Unfortunately, some quick googling does not appear to locate any information on this, so now I don't remember where I heard / read this in the first place.

FastTrak (used in the SF Bay Area) have a warning, laying this out when you buy the devices. You don't actually need the device though, as each bridge using it also uses cameras to read license plates. It's more convenient this way, as you just need to register your vehicle on their website.

Technically, CHP can give you a ticket if you use the FasTrak lanes without a FasTrack transponder, even though their computer system has no problems billing your account by license plate.

I've heard of it happening online, but never seen them pull somebody over personally.

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#26
post #6

I had thought it was common knowledge that E-ZPasses were used to collect real-time traffic estimates; certainly I've known for years that i-Pass (the Illinois equivalent) was used for this purpose. Unfortunately, some quick googling does not appear to locate any information on this, so now I don't remember where I heard / read this in the first place.

No, this is NOT common knowledge. Sheesh.

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#27
post #6

I had thought it was common knowledge that E-ZPasses were used to collect real-time traffic estimates; certainly I've known for years that i-Pass (the Illinois equivalent) was used for this purpose. Unfortunately, some quick googling does not appear to locate any information on this, so now I don't remember where I heard / read this in the first place.

FastTrak (used in the SF Bay Area) have a warning, laying this out when you buy the devices. You don't actually need the device though, as each bridge using it also uses cameras to read license plates. It's more convenient this way, as you just need to register your vehicle on their website.

You also save a buck on Golden Gate Bridge with transmitter.

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#28
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FastTrak (used in the SF Bay Area) have a warning, laying this out when you buy the devices. You don't actually need the device though, as each bridge using it also uses cameras to read license plates. It's more convenient this way, as you just need to register your vehicle on their website.

I don't keep plates on my car because of the abundance of plate tracking applications in use by the government and private companies.

Isn't that illegal pretty much everywhere?

Re: E-ZPasses Get Read All Over New York (Not Just At Toll Booths)

#29
As many have stated, this isn't news. There are all sorts of good and proper uses of toll-tags that aren't collecting tolls. There has never been any effort to hide that, nor should there be. The thing I have always been disturbed by WRT toll-tags is that toll-collecting entities flatly refuse to sell one that isn't attached to a person or a vehicle. There are opportunities for profit that have been ignored[1], and I expect that is probably because gov't entities want a high degree of certainty as to who is with the tag.

[1] - Prepaid toll-tags could be sold at vending machines for cash (business travelers, philanderers, etc.), but are not.

Re: E-ZPasses Get Read All Over New York (Not Just At Toll Booths)

#30
post #8

Is there any way to install a switch to kill the tag when you don't plan on using it? If that's possible, how difficult would it be to control this on/off switch with a spare smart phone based on approved GPS location?

Here in the bay area, they give you a mylar/antistatic bag with new FasTrak transponders for precisely this purpose. Put the transponder in the bag, nobody can read it.

(Also useful if you're using the new FasTrak-enabled carpool lanes in the east bay, when you actually have a carpool quorum and therefore are exempt from the toll.)

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