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LinkedIn Wants More Cash, Offers to Sell $1.15B Worth of Stock

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Re: LinkedIn Wants More Cash, Offers to Sell $1.15B Worth of Stock

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At a P/E of 935, I would also sell all the shares I could. http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=LNKD

So... why would it be a bad idea to short the stock now? Somebody talk me out of it before I make an expensive mistake.

Shorting excellent companies that make lots of money is generally a bad idea.

Re: LinkedIn Wants More Cash, Offers to Sell $1.15B Worth of Stock

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LinkedIn is doomed the moment real competition appears. People only use it while grimacing with disgust.

Why? I like it.

I'm curious about this as well. I don't use the site, but I see a lot of hate toward it (much of it seemingly unexplained).

Re: LinkedIn Wants More Cash, Offers to Sell $1.15B Worth of Stock

#23

At a P/E of 935, I would also sell all the shares I could. http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=LNKD

So... why would it be a bad idea to short the stock now? Somebody talk me out of it before I make an expensive mistake.

Heh, I had the same idea and lost a bit (if I had a proper account I woulda made enough on the volatility but that's another issue). A year ago I'd have though that by late 2013 LNKD'd would have fallen.

Look what happened last month. P/E insane, stock at $200. LNKD releases decent numbers ("as expected, LNKD exceeded expectations"), and the market decides "yeah let's just keep that P/E at the same spot".

As someone else wrote, the market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent. Maybe if LNKD releases a "met expectations" or "missed by 1%" people will realise a 900+ PE is ridiculous and it'll tank.

Meanwhile, LNKD would be idiotic to not sell off some more shares.

Re: LinkedIn Wants More Cash, Offers to Sell $1.15B Worth of Stock

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So... why would it be a bad idea to short the stock now? Somebody talk me out of it before I make an expensive mistake.

Shorting excellent companies that make lots of money is generally a bad idea.

They made $3.7M last quarter. That's not "lots of money" for a $32B market cap.

Re: LinkedIn Wants More Cash, Offers to Sell $1.15B Worth of Stock

#25

At a P/E of 935, I would also sell all the shares I could. http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=LNKD

I was thinking similar. It would take a LOT of earnings to come up with the cash that selling that equity would provide. (3-4 years of forward earnings, 30-40 of trailing, unclear on cash)

Re: LinkedIn Wants More Cash, Offers to Sell $1.15B Worth of Stock

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Yes. According to the prospectus[1] 4,165,972 shares new shares are being issues raising the outstanding Class A shares to 97,732,877. This is part of the reason there was a bit of a sell off after the announcement. [1] http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1271024/0001047469130...

Mathematically, their price should go down exactly (due to this announcement) (1 - Old # of outstanding shares / New # of outstanding shares)%

Only if you think the money they're getting for selling the stock is worthless...

Re: LinkedIn Wants More Cash, Offers to Sell $1.15B Worth of Stock

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So... why would it be a bad idea to short the stock now? Somebody talk me out of it before I make an expensive mistake.

Shorting excellent companies that make lots of money is generally a bad idea.

Not really. Think about Facebook's stock IPO or Cisco during the .com boom. Also think about 1929. Excellent companies that make lots of money doesn't mean that they're under- or overvalued. A P/E (price/earnings) ratio of 900 means that the market is expecting Linkedin to be much, much more profitable than it is currently. For comparison, a normal-ish P/E is around 20. Linkedin doesn't have to simply sustain its level of profits, it has to grow, and grow extremely rapidly, just to justify the current price of the stock. So people buying the stock now think that Linkedin will eventually do even better than THAT. I disagree with those people.

It's not that Linkedin isn't an excellent company or isn't making lots of money, it's that it is overvalued in the market unless its profits somehow balloon. It's the same problem Facebook had with its stock IPO.

LNKD will eventually crash if it doesn't wildly exceed expectations. It's most likely a bubble.

Re: LinkedIn Wants More Cash, Offers to Sell $1.15B Worth of Stock

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So... why would it be a bad idea to short the stock now? Somebody talk me out of it before I make an expensive mistake.

This is why: the market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=The+market+can+stay+irrational+lon...

It can be very hard to time, and you have to pay dividends/interest while shorting. Lots of pain for people who shorted tech in 1998. Or financials in 2005. No limit to your downside.

Re: LinkedIn Wants More Cash, Offers to Sell $1.15B Worth of Stock

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All I can think of is walled gardens need upkeep LinkedIn is the most amazing business node graph out there - for a professional person online it has everybody and uptodate. But there is a wafer thin business model if they played their hand brilliantly - and they play it like a drunk Captain Hook trying second dealing in Vegas. I just hope that when / if it all collapses we can club together and transfer out the edge…

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