This reminds me of the "I will not do your tech interview." post. [1] There's a good chance if you're applying you're either a. unemployed, looking for a job, or b. you really want to work at stripe. If you're passionate about what you do, you're going to enjoy designing anyways, so what better way to make you stand out than doing something that benefits the company you're applying for -- working on something you'd a…
Stripe: Redesign status page as part of job application
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Re: Stripe: Redesign status page as part of job application
#22I always wonder when I see things like this -- are there actually people who will work for free just to apply for a job? I do not mean this as snark. And I certainly would be open to the idea of a trial period or working on an in house project after the interview. But to ask someone to put in hours just for the possibility of an interview seems like a very asymmetric request. Am I off base here? EDIT: It's probably w…
Re: Stripe: Redesign status page as part of job application
#23a) I've found that lots of design applicants will put stuff in their portfolio that they contributed to, rather than built end-to-end. This solves that problem.
b) Tracking on the statement above, they're looking for a designer that has a "deep understanding of how applications should work". In an online design portfolio it's easy to misinterpret application design skills w/the ability to take a design spec from a product manager and make it pretty. Stripe is looking for a unicorn - a designer that is also a product manager / UX talent.
c) Design, especially UX design, is not just a "show me your portfolio" - it's a "what is your process to build the right UX." If a candidate submitted several iterations of design + maybe a "let's test these two things because I'm not sure" I would be 100% more likely to prioritize their app vs a "look at how pretty this is"
So I don't know, I get the argument that this is taking advantage.
But on the other end it makes them a lot more likely to find an awesome candidate who actually wants to work there, and has the talent to deliver the goods.
Re: Stripe: Redesign status page as part of job application
#24If the concern is whether they can strike the same tone and style, hiring people on a temp contract is usually a better way to go, plus then you also test if they're fast, present their work with a strong rationale, play nicely with others, etc.
Re: Stripe: Redesign status page as part of job application
#25This feels so unfair to an applicant. A better way would be to go through the normal filtering process of accepting applications. Choose several designers, then offer them this same task with proper payment for their time.
Re: Stripe: Redesign status page as part of job application
#26Who owns the submitted design, the designer or Stripe?
Re: Stripe: Redesign status page as part of job application
#27I get how controversial it is to ask for "free work" but on the other side of the coin: a) I've found that lots of design applicants will put stuff in their portfolio that they contributed to, rather than built end-to-end. This solves that problem. b) Tracking on the statement above, they're looking for a designer that has a "deep understanding of how applications should work". In an online design portfolio it's easy…
Effective designers (and effective hiring managers) have already solved this problem by describing their role in projects (or asking about specific roles in the interview process). Don't hire designers that have a portfolio full of nothing but sex-shots.
> "what is your process to build the right UX."
I agree that is the intention of this sort of application requirement, but I'd be surprised if it consistently worked. These sorts of requirements force designers to work in a vacuum. It is impossible to make an effective solution without having a deep understanding of the product—the hiring company will get a tepid/run of the mill/boring design. (Though perhaps a beautiful design, which often works for these sorts of interviews)
> But on the other end it makes them a lot more likely to find an awesome candidate who actually wants to work there, and has the talent to deliver the goods.
It's maybe likely to find them someone that wants to work with them (especially if we define "wants to work here" as "willing to do spec work" which may be fair) but in my experience, talented designers are busy working on cool projects and students/young designers are the ones with time to dedicate to this sort of application.
Re: Stripe: Redesign status page as part of job application
#28Stripe: Do work for us for free, maybe we'll hire you.
It seems more valid than asking someone to code on a whiteboard. It least here they get to evaluate the candidate on something relevant.
Re: Stripe: Redesign status page as part of job application
#29This feels so unfair to an applicant. A better way would be to go through the normal filtering process of accepting applications. Choose several designers, then offer them this same task with proper payment for their time.
Re: Stripe: Redesign status page as part of job application
#30This reminds me of the "I will not do your tech interview." post. [1] There's a good chance if you're applying you're either a. unemployed, looking for a job, or b. you really want to work at stripe. If you're passionate about what you do, you're going to enjoy designing anyways, so what better way to make you stand out than doing something that benefits the company you're applying for -- working on something you'd a…
It does sound like a good way to filter for people that really want to work at Stripe, and I don't really see anything wrong with that.