Hm. That's not the nicest quote to be out there (it's missing quite a bit of important context too). Paul you should really either retract that or nuance it but as it sits this reads pretty bad, even if it might be true . But I doubt it is true, accents have nothing to do with people's brains, they have everything to do with what your first language was and for how long that language was your only language. If you we…
Must agree. It's a stupid comment and it's embarrassing to see how PG fanboys here are walking on eggshells trying to force some sense into what seems to be the unavailing of a xenophobe. Look at early days Hollywood. It was founded, literally, by foreigners with thick accents. What a lame and nauseating comment.
Paul Graham on CEOs with ‘Strong’ Foreign Accents
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Re: Paul Graham on CEOs with ‘Strong’ Foreign Accents
#22Anyone here who's spent a decent amount of time abroad probably knows what I'm talking about. When someone asks you how to say something in English, and you say it, and they repeat it but it just sounds off, and they're incapable of producing the same sounds as you. It seems like the simplest of exercises but it hits the core of the issue.
For any Americans, trying to learn something like Thai (or other tonal languages) can be extremely difficult because of the tonal information. I am pretty incapable of producing anything sounding correct in Thai no matter how many times my friends try to make me say it.
You also have probably heard French people speak English. There's not much else to say about that. Almost all the accent is derived from differences in the sounds between the two languages.
Saying that it "just" requires effort is underestimating the amount of time it can take to rewrite the way you speak. People living years in foreign countries can still end up speaking with strong (yes, even near incomprehensible) accents, and I've run into a good amount of them.
There's a big perception penalty when you're not "in sync" with the language you're speaking in, which is where you get the "people talk slowly to you and assume you're not very smart" effect. So character judgements on language ability is a bit much.
There's an easy solution though: just hire somebody who can speak well. They're harder to find in some areas, but it's a pretty high priority. Just don't hate on the CEO if he can do his job.
Re: Paul Graham on CEOs with ‘Strong’ Foreign Accents
#23Hm. That's not the nicest quote to be out there (it's missing quite a bit of important context too). Paul you should really either retract that or nuance it but as it sits this reads pretty bad, even if it might be true . But I doubt it is true, accents have nothing to do with people's brains, they have everything to do with what your first language was and for how long that language was your only language. If you we…
Must agree. It's a stupid comment and it's embarrassing to see how PG fanboys here are walking on eggshells trying to force some sense into what seems to be the unavailing of a xenophobe. Look at early days Hollywood. It was founded, literally, by foreigners with thick accents. What a lame and nauseating comment.
PG has already clarified that he's not talking about someone saying "zee" instead of "the". And YC has funded many non-native English speaking teams before.
Re: Paul Graham on CEOs with ‘Strong’ Foreign Accents
#24We learned a bunch of tells as time went on. We videotape all of our interviews, and before each round of interviews, we look at the game tapes from the last round. By then, we know something about how these start-ups turned out, either good or bad. Sometimes, you look at that video and say, "We would have been fooled by these guys again." But sometimes, we can see: "Aha! They're doing X." That's not predjudice, that…
What PG actually said is that speakers with accents so thick that the YC team had to interrupt frequently to ask them to repeat themselves, tended not to be successful.
I think the problem was that PG used the term "accent" rather than "communication problem" or "could not understand what they were saying".
It's about the communication, not the fact that English is not their native language.