I heard this on the radio, and my thinking was: ok... this doesn't seem relevant to the Manning story. More like a side show.
'I am Chelsea Manning,' says jailed soldier formerly known as Bradley
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#22I have no qualms or problems whatsoever with gender reassignment or, sexual preference, but wtf ?! is this thing real ?
The transgender people I know/have known seem to be serious about it.
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#23Heads up everyone using "him" or "him (her)" (and permutations thereof), the correct terminology is just "her", because she is a woman. This isn't rocket science.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't see how the taxpayers should pay for this. One of the reasons the comments are so negative is because it feels like a smokescreen and/or a last attempt at sympathy. I don't care if he wants to become a girl, but he should wait until his/her time is served. I wonder if military prisons are monitored/protected any better than civilian prisons when it comes to that 'other' stuff.
Nonsense. His point of view is that a women is not what he wants to become, but what he is. He just wants to be recognized as one. Also, I don't really see where there is spending involved. Even if there were, the amount would be insignificant to even care about. There is much more waste elsewhere in the system. Last but not least, this guy shouldn't even be serving the sentence he is.
s/he/she
s/guy/girl*
*Feel free to replace girl with another appropriate feminine noun, I know some people consider it diminutive but it's probably the closest alternative to guy I can think of right this moment.
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't see how the taxpayers should pay for this. One of the reasons the comments are so negative is because it feels like a smokescreen and/or a last attempt at sympathy. I don't care if he wants to become a girl, but he should wait until his/her time is served. I wonder if military prisons are monitored/protected any better than civilian prisons when it comes to that 'other' stuff.
Manning preferred to be female well before the leaks or the trial. Also, the Army/taxpayers are paying for Manning's housing, food, clothes, and therapy even outside of prison.
Typically, they would not provide hormone therapy because
a) it is not essential for the job (they pull teeth instead of fix them for crying out loud) b) this is typically something that would lead to a medical discharge and in some cases, dishonorable discharge because it wasn't listed in the health questionnaire at time of application.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
He acted out while in the Army, obviously behaving in a way that showed his superiors that he needed help, yet they did nothing. He was even busted back down to PFC from SPC. Yet, they put him back on the job. On top of that, he was living in the "don't ask don't tell" world of the military at the time, risking discharge for admitting that he was gay. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Manning#Deployment_to_...
s/he/she s/him/her
Who gives a fuck?
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#27Hopefully this thread won't degenerate into anti-transgender comments like so many others today. Obviously Manning has needed mental health treatment for quite some time. Hopefully he can get what he needs while in prison. It's just too bad that prison is where he has to go to get help.
s/he/she
Can you stop doing this all over the thread? If you have a point to make, make it, but this is just spam.
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#28Hopefully this thread won't degenerate into anti-transgender comments like so many others today. Obviously Manning has needed mental health treatment for quite some time. Hopefully he can get what he needs while in prison. It's just too bad that prison is where he has to go to get help.
s/he/she
Doing this repeatedly is likely to get you automatically hellbanned. A comment on this at the root level will probably get enough upvotes to bring it near the top.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't see how the taxpayers should pay for this. One of the reasons the comments are so negative is because it feels like a smokescreen and/or a last attempt at sympathy. I don't care if he wants to become a girl, but he should wait until his/her time is served. I wonder if military prisons are monitored/protected any better than civilian prisons when it comes to that 'other' stuff.
Nonsense. His point of view is that a women is not what he wants to become, but what he is. He just wants to be recognized as one. Also, I don't really see where there is spending involved. Even if there were, the amount would be insignificant to even care about. There is much more waste elsewhere in the system. Last but not least, this guy shouldn't even be serving the sentence he is.
That's not what I'm arguing against, I'm stating that hormone therapy should not be paid for by the military.
That said, if he wants to be recognized as a woman, that means he wants to be placed in prison with other women, which is clearly an issue. IMO the military has no choice but to place him in a male facility and call him whatever he wants to be called.
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#30I heard this on the radio, and my thinking was: ok... this doesn't seem relevant to the Manning story. More like a side show.
Lamo befriended Manning during a depressive period caused by gender confusion. Lamo played on Manning's vulnerable state to get information about the leaks. That's why it's relevant.