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Re: Firebug 1.12 – New Features

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"Copy as cURL" is great! I'm curious to see if it even builds POST requests properly.. Edit: it does! It includes all the headers, the POST data, etc...

Even the cookies. It's been in webkit for a while. SO USEFUL. You can also use it to leech stuff from login/captcha protected download areas like rapidshare or the apple dev center. No more failed browser downloads of 1gig files! Just add -C to your curl command!

I think it's actually "-C -" to tell it to automatically figure out where to restart.

Re: Firebug 1.12 – New Features

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I fail to see how Firebug has a better UI then WebKit Developer Tools? As far as I am concerned they are the same in that regard. And since both of those tools are not built by "developers", but by "frontend engineers" it doesn't really matter. I spent like 15 minutes trying to figure out how to attach Firebug to the browser window. Only to find out that the upward pointing arrow in a gray circle means attach to brow…

Think what s/he's saying is that it helps that they use their own tools for UI dev versus those who hammer on the browser and made comparable tools, not that Firebug has a better UI.

That's fine, but I think it's a bit far fetched to say that the people who work on WebKit/Blink developer tools don't use the developer tools.

Re: Firebug 1.12 – New Features

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Well Chrome had this feature for a long time. Personally I don't find it much useful. But to me the killer feature of firebug is that when you open an XHR entry in new tab it opens the tab with all POST variables. Super handy when debugging REST api.

I don't know that this is in regular Chrome (at least I can't find it). Google-fu says that Chromium has it though..

It's in Chrome for Linux and Windows for me.

http://i.imgur.com/42D59mv.png

Re: Firebug 1.12 – New Features

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Is there work going on to build Firebug on top of the built-in Firefox debugging tools? The two don't seem to work well together at the moment.

When you enter debug mode in SpiderMonkey most (all? I forget) jit'ing and optimizations won't happen; code becomes a lot slower. The new debugging api allows you to debug specific tabs, while the old one would force all of the browser (including the chrome js that handles the browser's UI) to enter debug mode and the whole browser gets slow.

Because Honza is working on porting firebug to the new debugger API, it will get faster, and so will all of firefox when you are using firebug.

IIRC, Honza is not just working on porting from the old api to the new one, but also on top of our remote debugging protocol. This means that we improve the debugging server, and both the native tools and firebug get better. Plus, you'll be able to use firebug on your laptop, connected remotely to firefox on your android phone, or firefox os.

Re: Firebug 1.12 – New Features

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Think what s/he's saying is that it helps that they use their own tools for UI dev versus those who hammer on the browser and made comparable tools, not that Firebug has a better UI.

That's fine, but I think it's a bit far fetched to say that the people who work on WebKit/Blink developer tools don't use the developer tools.

It's true.. the Chrome DevTools are a webapp, and the engineers behind it use the DevTools _on_ the DevTools as their primary means of development. (Enter inception joke here). From what I can tell, the same is true with the Safari Inspector and the IE F12 Tools.

Re: Firebug 1.12 – New Features

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well Chrome had this feature for a long time. Personally I don't find it much useful. But to me the killer feature of firebug is that when you open an XHR entry in new tab it opens the tab with all POST variables. Super handy when debugging REST api.

I don't know that this is in regular Chrome (at least I can't find it). Google-fu says that Chromium has it though..

Yup it's in regular Chrome: https://developers.google.com/chrome-developer-tools/docs/ne...

Re: Firebug 1.12 – New Features

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Firefox's, certainly. It would be good if you reported it on Bugzilla.

Thanks, I had meant to ping someone about this, but keep forgetting. Filed: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=908174

Interesting, you don't have lag when first opening it? I was investigating pretty much the same thing yesterday, in the end my problem was that the JSD was ridiculously slow to toggle, but firebug is already working to move to JSD2 so I can't really complain too much. There is a test extension you can use attached to this bug.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=815603

I was getting something like 100ms to pause and 10000ms to unpause. With 5 tabs loaded and a couple hundred tabs unloaded. I disabled the javascript parts of firebug for general use, which does avoid the problem most of the time.

Re: Firebug 1.12 – New Features

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Very annoyingly, in the FF 24 beta, Firebug basically crashes the browser every time you open it (or switch to another tab and then back). Not sure if it's FF's problem or Firebug's, but it's really annoying.

Firefox's, certainly. It would be good if you reported it on Bugzilla.

How do you know for sure?
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