The base rate of positive outcomes from genuine revolutions is poor. Very poor. The American Revolution is an unusual exception which more closely resembled a standard war than the total dissolution of social order. Think about what total dissolution of social order means. It means that sociopaths and psychopaths are no longer making your life hell at work. They are killing and torturing people. And the worst of the…
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#22Well, wrote an epic rant/rebuttal to the "hard work is just a story" and by the time I finished the link to post expired... So I'll be brief. The argument that hard work is just a story is deeply offensive to me. Social mobility in the US is one of the highest it has ever been in history. AND this social mobility is non-violent! This has NEVER happened before in human history. Just think about that for a minute befor…
> Social mobility in the US is one of the highest it has ever been in history No, social mobility in the US has actually decreased fairly significantly in the last 50 years, and is much lower than other countries. That the US is somehow highly socially mobile is an enduring myth engrained in our collective psyche that is utterly wrong at this point. It took me less than a minute to google "social mobility in the US t…
By these measures, if you are after 50's style middle class living, it is true, Australia offers a much better bet. Here's an article on a miner making 200k: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297020462190457701...
With proper saving and conservative living, you can easily save enough to be relatively secure.
I'll keep working in tech here.
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#23Well, wrote an epic rant/rebuttal to the "hard work is just a story" and by the time I finished the link to post expired... So I'll be brief. The argument that hard work is just a story is deeply offensive to me. Social mobility in the US is one of the highest it has ever been in history. AND this social mobility is non-violent! This has NEVER happened before in human history. Just think about that for a minute befor…
> Social mobility in the US is one of the highest it has ever been in history No, social mobility in the US has actually decreased fairly significantly in the last 50 years, and is much lower than other countries. That the US is somehow highly socially mobile is an enduring myth engrained in our collective psyche that is utterly wrong at this point. It took me less than a minute to google "social mobility in the US t…
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/09/map...
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#24Some of them are widely held misconceptions; some of them are fairly juvenile. (For example, [1].)
And that's why we cannot fix the situation. If your analysis of what's currently wrong is bad, you certainly aren't going to come up with something better.
There is hope, but only in the very long term. We need better people in academic philosophy departments. Their ideas are the top of the intellectual food pyramid and eventually trickle down to everyone.
[1] A common mistake is to make the following equivocation which I will quote: "Business at large, 'capitalism',...". No, business != capitalism. Or if you really want to define capitalism that way, your model is insufficient detailed to capture important distinctions. For instance, think about big business under fascist ideology (such as Nazism), which is fully integrated and controlled by the government, though nominally held privately. Then think about the opposite: When all people are treated _completely_ equally by the government, which means that no business can get any sort of special advantage _at all_. In one of these situations, the economy will steadily decline into nothing. In the other, you have the best possible condition for economic growth. Our current system is highly mixed; literally, a mix of poison and medicine. How would the OP analyze this situation, and in which direction would he advocate going? He certainly wouldn't take a principled approach, because his model is insufficiently detailed to capture this issue.
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#25The base rate of positive outcomes from genuine revolutions is poor. Very poor. The American Revolution is an unusual exception which more closely resembled a standard war than the total dissolution of social order. Think about what total dissolution of social order means. It means that sociopaths and psychopaths are no longer making your life hell at work. They are killing and torturing people. And the worst of the…
This answer is too good to merely upvote - it is not only informative and factual, but also very well written. Thank you for taking the time to add it!!
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#26Well, wrote an epic rant/rebuttal to the "hard work is just a story" and by the time I finished the link to post expired... So I'll be brief. The argument that hard work is just a story is deeply offensive to me. Social mobility in the US is one of the highest it has ever been in history. AND this social mobility is non-violent! This has NEVER happened before in human history. Just think about that for a minute befor…
> Social mobility in the US is one of the highest it has ever been in history No, social mobility in the US has actually decreased fairly significantly in the last 50 years, and is much lower than other countries. That the US is somehow highly socially mobile is an enduring myth engrained in our collective psyche that is utterly wrong at this point. It took me less than a minute to google "social mobility in the US t…
Non-leading query. Hahahaha. As if that matters. There are two types of articles written on the topic, and you found the one you were looking for. This is evidence of exactly nothing.
NB: the presence of a '%' in an article does not a well-done study make. Further, studies on this topic have been commissioned by double-blind souls approximately never.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Social mobility in the US is one of the highest it has ever been in history No, social mobility in the US has actually decreased fairly significantly in the last 50 years, and is much lower than other countries. That the US is somehow highly socially mobile is an enduring myth engrained in our collective psyche that is utterly wrong at this point. It took me less than a minute to google "social mobility in the US t…
On a related note, take a look at the US's gini coefficient, which measures income inequality (and strong predictor of social unrest): http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/09/map... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gini_coefficient