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Why I Was Fired From a Tech Startup and What My Boss Had to Say About It

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Re: Why I Was Fired From a Tech Startup and What My Boss Had to Say About It

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Regardless of whether it's right or wrong, physical appearance can often have a big impact when dealing with certain clientele.

Certain types of clients just prefer to deal with people who conform to what might be considered a more "conservative" appearance. Deviating from their expectations can reduce their level of trust, for instance, which can impact business dealings. This is especially true when dealing with customers from abroad, especially when there are other cultural differences at play.

Some people have also had very, very bad experiences with other people who dress or groom themselves in a specific way. It's not the appearance itself that is harmful, but rather the association it has to other people who were directly involved with bad experiences in the past.

An example of this are those Ruby on Rails developers who choose a so-called "hipster" appearance. It can only take one disastrous Ruby on Rails project for a client to consider all software developers who have such an appearance to be untrustworthy and unprofessional. Again, whether it's right or wrong, this can happen very easily.

The specifics of this particular case aren't very clear. But I wouldn't be so quick to underestimate the importance or impact of physical appearance in general, when it comes to business dealings.

Re: Why I Was Fired From a Tech Startup and What My Boss Had to Say About It

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"Anyone who is worth a shit has been fired at least once."

I know you meant 'Anyone who takes risks gets fired eventually. Great people take risks.'

But I got fired from a burger place once because I wasn't much good at making burgers.

They also say 'Judge a man by his enemies. A man with no enemies is no man at all'. But I suspect most people you'd want to work with don't have enemies at work.

Re: Why I Was Fired From a Tech Startup and What My Boss Had to Say About It

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The big question: did he end up getting coffee with his former boss?

My big question is how exactly the way he looked triggered his dismissal.

I'd have marched into the CEO's office and demanded an explanation. Looked him straight in the eye and make him justify his decision.

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Nice story, but we're hearing only one side of it. Was the writer working running his "sex and comedy" blog at the same time as working for the company? I can imagine the CEO sacking him when he came across the guy's blog; what with the pictures of vibrators and skanky models.. The start-up's customers were looking for Software Developers: unless they were limiting themselves to the young/liberal Bay then this kinda…

I can imagine 99% of customers never putting two and two together in the first place. I talk to salespeople all the time, and not once have I thought to inquire about their personal interests, side projects, etc.

That may be true for you and the other 99% of customers. However, if that 1% of customers who do consider such things to matter are the most important of a given firm's customers, then their opinions on such issues can have an astronomical impact on the business.

Re: Why I Was Fired From a Tech Startup and What My Boss Had to Say About It

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Regardless of whether it's right or wrong, physical appearance can often have a big impact when dealing with certain clientele. Certain types of clients just prefer to deal with people who conform to what might be considered a more "conservative" appearance. Deviating from their expectations can reduce their level of trust, for instance, which can impact business dealings. This is especially true when dealing with cu…

> Some people have also had very, very bad experiences with other people who dress or groom themselves in a specific way.

I've had very, very bad experiences with people who dress in suits. Indeed, the people who have had the most severe negative effects on my life have invariably worn suits. And I can't name many people I've had positive experiences with who ever wear suits.

Yet, somehow, I don't think that's what you had in mind when defending this nonsense.

Re: Why I Was Fired From a Tech Startup and What My Boss Had to Say About It

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Ah, the magic of "at will" employment. It's an excellent tool for those who rely on fear based management, and a horrible deal for employees. Based on my experience in the tech industry, I assume I am being lied to. Things have only gotten worse recently with all of the fast money sloshing around and the bad actors it has drawn in.

Yeah, it's to where if I get a whiff of dishonesty, I start submitting resumes. This is my third job since April and I've already started looking for the fourth. I used to think job-hopping would raise a red flag and keep me from getting hired, but it hasn't yet. I think if anything it signals value that you can find work at will.

Re: Why I Was Fired From a Tech Startup and What My Boss Had to Say About It

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> I was told that neither salary nor equity were negotiable, but I was sold on the promise of the company. Yo, fuck that. Everything is negotiable to one degree or another. That sounds like someone trying to take advantage of you.

Well, you can negotiate to not take the job... I don't see why a company can't hold its ground on salary if it chooses to rule out anyone wishing to get a bit more.

Re: Why I Was Fired From a Tech Startup and What My Boss Had to Say About It

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My big question is how exactly the way he looked triggered his dismissal.

I'd have marched into the CEO's office and demanded an explanation. Looked him straight in the eye and make him justify his decision.

... And probably get hauled off by security or even worse the Police?
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