The UK should be kicked out of the EU. Until they learn how to behave.
Detaining my partner: a failed attempt at intimidation
21–30 of 463 posts
Re: Detaining my partner: a failed attempt at intimidation
#22The salient quote from Greenwald's article on this:
They completely abused their own terrorism law for reasons having nothing whatsoever to do with terrorism: a potent reminder of how often governments lie when they claim that they need powers to stop "the terrorists", and how dangerous it is to vest unchecked power with political officials in its name. [1]
This is a great example of why we should treat terrorism like any other crime, and why the police should never be trusted with exceptional powers simply because we feel under threat. Give them the powers, and they will be misused - in this case they were used on a relative of someone nothing to do with terrorism purely for the purpose of intimidation. The security services even called Greenwald to give him the news that his partner had been detained.
[1] http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/18/david-m...
Re: Detaining my partner: a failed attempt at intimidation
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
It seems odd that they removed property of a journalist. I was under the impression that journalists (and their materials) had special protections under English law. Once you get in the country you have different rights ( http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/england/law_e/law_legal_system... ) ( https://www.gov.uk/police-powers-of-arrest-your-rights )
Is he a journalist, or just the partner of a journalist? Maybe since they know they can't intimidate Greenwald directly they are going after his family and loved ones?
I'm not sure what he does for a living, but he was in Germany to meet with Laura Poitras so he is at least somewhat involved.
Re: Detaining my partner: a failed attempt at intimidation
#24Welcome to the UK
[1] https://www.liberty-human-rights.org.uk/human-rights/terrori...
[2] https://www.liberty-human-rights.org.uk/policy/bill-tracker/...
I think I'll buy the Guardian tomorrow...
Re: Detaining my partner: a failed attempt at intimidation
#25Just more evidence that the world is controlled by an oppressive totalitarian Govt that we're effectively powerless to stop. At least with these incidents we get to know which other countries are complicit and under the influence of the NSA.
No, we aren't powerless. That's why these people are so relentless in their intimidation and pursuit of more power. If they thought we were powerless, they wouldn't bother. They are afraid, and they should be. The tide can turn quickly.
I don't think the ability to dispense fear and intimidation around the world at will is a show of fear.
Our biggest hope is this becomes a national issue for the next election so we at least have the opportunity to elect the leader who respects our constitutional rights the most.
Re: Detaining my partner: a failed attempt at intimidation
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
It seems odd that they removed property of a journalist. I was under the impression that journalists (and their materials) had special protections under English law. Once you get in the country you have different rights ( http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/england/law_e/law_legal_system... ) ( https://www.gov.uk/police-powers-of-arrest-your-rights )
Is he a journalist, or just the partner of a journalist? Maybe since they know they can't intimidate Greenwald directly they are going after his family and loved ones?
Greenwald posted an open letter and from what he says in that it doesn't seem his partner is a journalist. He was however questioned extensively on Greenwald and his reporting for The guardian.
Link to the open letter: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/18/david-m...
Re: Detaining my partner: a failed attempt at intimidation
#27> The 28-year-old was held for nine hours, the maximum the law allows What a flagrant abuse of power. It looks like their power should be reigned in. The acts are fascism. The public would pay more attention if we refer to them as such. * edits: wording. I have hard time being dispassionate about this.
Don't be shy - call it what it is - genocide.
Re: Detaining my partner: a failed attempt at intimidation
#28Shades of Joseph Wilson. There will be some serious fall out from this, I wonder what they were thinking when they pulled this stunt, Greenwald is not going to be intimidated.
Re: Detaining my partner: a failed attempt at intimidation
#29> The 28-year-old was held for nine hours, the maximum the law allows What a flagrant abuse of power. It looks like their power should be reigned in. The acts are fascism. The public would pay more attention if we refer to them as such. * edits: wording. I have hard time being dispassionate about this.
Don't be shy - call it what it is - genocide.
faschism = An authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
Which fits the situation.
Your genocide reference, an attempt to trivialize the above statement, doesn't even make sense.
Re: Detaining my partner: a failed attempt at intimidation
#30Just more evidence that the world is controlled by an oppressive totalitarian Govt that we're effectively powerless to stop. At least with these incidents we get to know which other countries are complicit and under the influence of the NSA.
It looks pretty democratic to me. Where are the large protests ?