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Amulyte (YC S13) is Building a Better Lifeline For Seniors on the Move

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Re: Amulyte (YC S13) is Building a Better Lifeline For Seniors on the Move

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It would seem a much simpler solution would be feasible. A small GSM device that is essentially powered off until it is needed, at which time it would be booted up and begin sending GPS coordinates via SMS. If you wanted higher reliability, you could look into the FM-based system that LoJack uses, but either way, constant communication seems unnecessary.

Great points, this is something that we have given a lot of thought towards. We are going to be pinging the device at certain points (when someone logs into the portal for example), and the device will also send data at set intervals (we can adjust how often we send data to save battery life, and based on a few other things). When the device is not actively sending data or establishing a connected we do sleep the dev…

Doesn't that place a pretty large assumption on good data coverage? I live in Denver, which generally has good coverage, but my last place was in a total dead zone and I had to get a microcell device to be able to use the phone indoors. SMS almost always got through, OTOH.

Re: Amulyte (YC S13) is Building a Better Lifeline For Seniors on the Move

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Sound almost like A. C. Clarke's CORA (http://www.e-book2u.org/sf/Clarke08/30298.html):

"THIS IS A CORA ALERT. WILL ANYONE WITHIN RANGE OF MY VOICE PLEASE COME IMMEDIATELY. THIS IS A CORA ALERT. WILL ANYONE WITHIN RANGE OF MY VOICE PLEASE COME IMMEDIATELY."

Another piece of past future come true?

Re: Amulyte (YC S13) is Building a Better Lifeline For Seniors on the Move

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It's marketed as a device for the elderly but another segment that could benefit from this are disabled people living alone.

When I left my parents house, I looked for something like this to use in case of an emergency. One option was to pay a monthly fee for a similar device, that upon activation makes someone call you and if you don't pick up they send an ambulance or call someone.

In the end I went for a wrist-watch like device that hooks itself to the house alarm and dials a predefined number when you press it. It obviously only works when I'm at home but that was enough for me and it doesn't include a monthly fee.

Re: Amulyte (YC S13) is Building a Better Lifeline For Seniors on the Move

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

To get around this issue they can build an alarm which starts sounding when the battery is getting low. Another feature would be to send a notification to the care giver to charge the battery. The third fail safe would be to alert care giver if there is no communication with the device.

Couldn't have said this better myself, this is exactly what we are doing :) We are also conscious of making sure that charging the device becomes part of a seniors daily routine to help ensure that it remains charged. We are also using induction charging to make charging the device as simple as placing it on its holder (no micro USB to fiddle around with)

The daily routine is probably key, you'll get better compliance with something that is done daily than something that can (in theory) be done weekly, even if the batteries could last that long.

Re: Amulyte (YC S13) is Building a Better Lifeline For Seniors on the Move

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What are the dimensions? Although this product isn't intended to make a fashion statement, the elderly may still be averse to carrying/wearing around something rather bulky. Especially if they're having trouble admitting to their fragile state.

Re: Amulyte (YC S13) is Building a Better Lifeline For Seniors on the Move

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Couldn't have said this better myself, this is exactly what we are doing :) We are also conscious of making sure that charging the device becomes part of a seniors daily routine to help ensure that it remains charged. We are also using induction charging to make charging the device as simple as placing it on its holder (no micro USB to fiddle around with)

The daily routine is probably key, you'll get better compliance with something that is done daily than something that can (in theory) be done weekly, even if the batteries could last that long.

We take this approach with our biowatch, but it's a different demographic that also charges a smartphone every night. With seniors, I worry that it comes off to charge it may not go back on. And the loss of faculties related falls starts to correlate with loss of memory and further dementia.

That said, they are honing in on the user experience at nursing homes. Independent living facilities offer a slightly different demographic and likely closer to their goal. Worst case, the device is sending low battery pings, and that itself is an opportunity for children to check in.

Re: Amulyte (YC S13) is Building a Better Lifeline For Seniors on the Move

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$30/month is too much for this to get Wal-Mart traction (which is what it needs, because not even the daughters of seniors buy FitBits online). Seniors often live on what they call "fixed income" which is a euphemism for government aid, pensions (which are diminishing), etc. A new expense cannot be covered by working harder or smarter. A $30/month new expense is exactly why lots of seniors do not have smartphones (ironic then that Amulyte folks say they considered making a phone app but not enough of the audience have smartphones, then made a device that costs the same as a smartphone data plan).

Consider that the Kindle 3G comes with free cellular service. The hardware is in the same price ballpark, so why does Kindle let me download entire books for free, but Amulyte charges me $30/month to publish tiny updates that I hope I don't need?

Also consider the SPOT satellite messenger. It costs $150 plus $150 per year, which is much cheaper than Amulyte. The main downside for this application is that it does not work indoors--but the SPOT folks could add GSM capability and then their device seems almost universally better (the one exception being ergonomics for seniors).

Finally, ergonomics. Amulyte can't be too large, or it will be a constant dangling reminder of dying. And it obviously shouldn't be black in color--if not because black implies death then because new little black electronic widgets are really confusing and scary to old people. Round and light-colored would make a difference for some of the target audience.

Re: Amulyte (YC S13) is Building a Better Lifeline For Seniors on the Move

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I'm super-impressed and really happy to see this recent batch of YC companies tackling some very underserved and unsexy problems. While Amulyte is not a new idea, I do think their product is a much-needed improvement on what's existed for some time. But will that improvement be enough for it to be a widely adopted product? I don't think so. Products offering similar solutions have been around with moderate levels of…

>very underserved and unsexy problems.

I find it sad that we have to give a company/startup praise for this. A business exists (the majority, at least) to make money, not to look "fun." If you have an idea that will make money, go for it. Don't try to squeeze pennies out of something that isn't there. It's as simple as that. That wasn't directed at you Kyro, just the "collective you" that is everyone.

Re: Amulyte (YC S13) is Building a Better Lifeline For Seniors on the Move

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post #28

$30/month is too much for this to get Wal-Mart traction (which is what it needs, because not even the daughters of seniors buy FitBits online). Seniors often live on what they call "fixed income" which is a euphemism for government aid, pensions (which are diminishing), etc. A new expense cannot be covered by working harder or smarter. A $30/month new expense is exactly why lots of seniors do not have smartphones (ir…

Thanks for the feedback, you bring up some valid points that we have definitely thought through.

First, the expense associated with the device is comparable to what is currently on the market (in some cases it is actually less expensive than the competition). We realize that not everyone will be able to afford devices like this, which is why we also want to explore ways to get this subsidized. We believe that a device like this can allow seniors to live independently for longer, thus allowing them to remain in their own homes longer, and saving them on the cost of retirement and nursing homes (not to mention studies show that 90%+ of seniors want to remain living in their own homes for as long as possible). Down the road we may even explore offering a less expensive version of this if that becomes possible on our end (we still need to cover manufacturing costs and overhead).

You bring up a few other examples, but none of them are exactly comparable. First, the Kindle makes its profits off the books you do buy (they may offer some for free, but the profit comes from the business model in which users do still pay for books on their device). Second, you bring up SPOT then add that it doesn't actually work the way we do. The added functionality does come at an additional cost on our end. We are also spending more on getting a smaller form factor (this means a lot more work on the hardware engineering side), and we are creating a custom dock so that the pendant can be easily recharged without needing to fidget with a micro USB.

In terms of ergonomics, the device will measure approximately 40mm x 40mm, which is comparable to current devices on the market with a limited set of features. We are continuously trying to engineer the device to be smaller, and over time we will be able to, but this does incur larger upfront costs and a longer period of time. So right now, we are focusing on making the best device possible, and will continue to iterate and improve on it as components get better and better :) As for the black - it tested rather well with males (although my preference, and that of a lot of the female seniors we showed the designs to, did prefer the lighter coloured device).

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