Could this post be designed to provoke a reaction that might lead to (or contribute to pre-existing) FTC anti-trust inquiries about Google's practices?
The limits of Google’s openness
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Re: The limits of Google’s openness
#22This is just like Google blocking Maps on Windows Phone; there's a video where someone changed the agent from "Windows Phone 8" to "Windows Phne 8" and suddenly maps.google.com actually worked. I'm not a Microsoft fan, but I do rather like my Windows Phone, and I wish they would stop squabbling so I can have a YouTube app and change the search engine from Bing.
Google Maps works OK (not great) if you install the official Google app and search for a place name. http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/google/220bfbf2-...
Re: The limits of Google’s openness
#23It's my understanding that YouTube officially supports access via either a Flash applet or the HTML5 tag. Windows Phone doesn't support Flash[1], so the only option for writing a mobile app using the official API is to use HTML5.
It's not obvious why using the HTML5 API is "impossible". Windows bundles a -capable browser; assuming IE's capable of playing either H.264 or WebM, it should be relatively easy to build a YouTube app on top of it. Maybe there's some internal reason why an app can't easily embed an IE widget.
[1] http://www.winrumors.com/no-flash-for-windows-phone-as-adobe...
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#24Another too wordy document on Microsoft's part. The core of the issue is that Google is forcing Microsoft to jump through hoops that it is not forcing iOS devices to jump through. Its clear this is an anti-competitive action on Google's part and while they have that right (if they aren't a monopoly, which is increasingly unclear), they really can't claim with the other side of their mouth that they are open.
Doesn't Google publish its own YouTube app on iOS now?
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#25GOOG is the new bully.
Re: The limits of Google’s openness
#26This is just like Google blocking Maps on Windows Phone; there's a video where someone changed the agent from "Windows Phone 8" to "Windows Phne 8" and suddenly maps.google.com actually worked. I'm not a Microsoft fan, but I do rather like my Windows Phone, and I wish they would stop squabbling so I can have a YouTube app and change the search engine from Bing.
Google Maps works OK (not great) if you install the official Google app and search for a place name. http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/google/220bfbf2-...
I've subsequently found that Nokia Here maps work every bit as well for me as Google Maps ever did when I had my Android.
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#27Karma is finally biting Microsoft in the ass. Who else remembers the refrain "it ain't done 'til Lotus won't run!" from Microsoft's earlier years? Having said that, I would expect the "do no evil" company - directly referring to not being like Microsoft - to do the right thing, if, in fact Microsoft is being fully forthcoming in stating they have complied with all of Google's objections. In the end, both companies ha…
The article says that they decided to release the app over Google's objections:
There was one sticking point in the collaboration. Google
asked us to transition our app to a new coding
language – HTML5.
[...]
For this reason, we made a decision this week to publish
our non-HTML5 app while committing to work with Google
long-term on an app based on HTML5. [...] Google, however,
has decided to block our mutual customers from accessing
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Prerogative or not, it's still douchey of Google to outright block Microsoft. The original Apple version of YouTube only shows videos that do not want advertising (granted a smaller and smaller # of videos).
>Prerogative or not, it's still douchey of Google to outright block Microsoft. Why? The two customers are competitors and Microsoft has a history of just ripping off Google's services . http://www.wired.com/business/2011/02/bing-copies-google/
Do two wrongs make a right?
Re: The limits of Google’s openness
#29This is just like Google blocking Maps on Windows Phone; there's a video where someone changed the agent from "Windows Phone 8" to "Windows Phne 8" and suddenly maps.google.com actually worked. I'm not a Microsoft fan, but I do rather like my Windows Phone, and I wish they would stop squabbling so I can have a YouTube app and change the search engine from Bing.
Of course it doesn't matter much with the nokia mapping apps on the nokia phones being a better alternative.
Those apps are available on non-Nokia phones now too.
Re: The limits of Google’s openness
#30Microsoft, build your own YouTube.