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Why isn't there a Kickstarter for killing patents?

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Re: Why isn't there a Kickstarter for killing patents?

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I don't agree that killing patents is the right approach, how about this as an alternative: The site's admin team could identify patents of particularly useful or disruptive potential and users could pledge a value to bring this patent into the public domain, and their pledge could remain valid for some reasonable period of time, the site could then put forward the aggregate pledge and buy the patent with the view to…

I am not sure if patent trolls will want to part with their main source of income for any reasonable amount.

Re: Why isn't there a Kickstarter for killing patents?

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post #19

I don't agree that killing patents is the right approach, how about this as an alternative: The site's admin team could identify patents of particularly useful or disruptive potential and users could pledge a value to bring this patent into the public domain, and their pledge could remain valid for some reasonable period of time, the site could then put forward the aggregate pledge and buy the patent with the view to…

>The same could be done to bring creative works like books into the public domain.

This is a great idea. Unpopular works would be inexpensive to acquire rights for, so dedicated fan communities could try this.

Some out of print works might only cost a token amount. Might be able to buy them in bulk from publishers.

Re: Why isn't there a Kickstarter for killing patents?

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post #21

RPX[1] is doing some interesting things with Patent Troll Insurance, but it's really only a viable option for huge corporations who want to buy into the troll-defense patent pool. [1] http://www.crowell.com/NewsEvents/AlertsNewsletters/all/Cour...

Actively harmful to the industry. You'll just end up creating similar market forces such as the MPEGLA that is currently making advancement in video compression close to impossible. Troll-defense patent pool simply creates a large artificial barrier to entry into the market.

It's probably better than nothing, but actually removing the patents and allowing open competition is more beneficial for the public and economy overall.

Re: Why isn't there a Kickstarter for killing patents?

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post #22
post #19

I don't agree that killing patents is the right approach, how about this as an alternative: The site's admin team could identify patents of particularly useful or disruptive potential and users could pledge a value to bring this patent into the public domain, and their pledge could remain valid for some reasonable period of time, the site could then put forward the aggregate pledge and buy the patent with the view to…

I am not sure if patent trolls will want to part with their main source of income for any reasonable amount.

I would worry about the opposite problem: Troll gets crap patent for $X, sells it to community for $10X and then goes out and gets ten more crap patents.

Re: Why isn't there a Kickstarter for killing patents?

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post #19

I don't agree that killing patents is the right approach, how about this as an alternative: The site's admin team could identify patents of particularly useful or disruptive potential and users could pledge a value to bring this patent into the public domain, and their pledge could remain valid for some reasonable period of time, the site could then put forward the aggregate pledge and buy the patent with the view to…

The problem with this - at least as I understand it - is that patent trolls make a lot from patents on a one-by-one basis - much more than companies want to pay or feel is affordable.

Re: Why isn't there a Kickstarter for killing patents?

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post #19

I don't agree that killing patents is the right approach, how about this as an alternative: The site's admin team could identify patents of particularly useful or disruptive potential and users could pledge a value to bring this patent into the public domain, and their pledge could remain valid for some reasonable period of time, the site could then put forward the aggregate pledge and buy the patent with the view to…

The patents won't be killed if they're valid; it still has to go through the USPTO. Why do you think that killing those patents is not the right approach?

Your approach (if it worked) would just incentivize filing more patents to try to get bought out.

Re: Why isn't there a Kickstarter for killing patents?

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I really don't understand what you're advocating or what mechanism you hope to develop. You basically want to put out bounties for law firms to take cases against patents? What patents would they target? What adversarial setting would they defend / attack patents in? Couldn't this result in a race to the bottom about what things people want in the public domain - ie. a bunch of people petitioning to have a law firm a…

My argument is based on the premise that most software patents are bad for our economy.

Amazon's One-Click patent is a perfect example. Amazon would have developed one-click whether or not it was patentable. By granting the patent, we granted Amazon a monopoly and didn't get anything in return.

I LOVE the shorter patent idea - particularly for software patents. It wouldn't work for pharma, but that's okay.

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