Perhaps the complaints have more to do with seeing something listed on the bill that you didn't order. If it was removed entirely instead of being presented as a tax, that might change the response.
Observations From a Tipless Restaurant, Part 5: Sex, Power and Tips
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#22I tip more than 20% because the server minimum wage in Massachusetts is $2.63/hour. It is that simple. You would be surprised the number of people who think that a server is getting $8/hour with tips added on top. I'm a heterosexual male in the age range that this guy is remarking on but I tip male servers and older women the same as I tip younger women. He is stereotyping. No doubt there are some who see tipping as…
>No doubt there are some who see tipping as a sexual power trip but probably in no higher percentage than any other endeavor.
I don't follow you. In what other aspect of everyday life is someone forced to converse with you, meet your every whim, and then afterwards you get to decide how much money they take home?
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#24This is a very interesting but dangerous post: It's interesting because obviously the author has put a lot of thought into the topic and has done some research. However, for me, it clearly shows the danger of ideology, in fact it's a great example of it. "To be ideological is to preconceive reality." and we have a good example of that here: The author has strong opinions about sexuality and our approaches to it, ther…
Anyway. I like the idea that because servers are no longer "performing" for tips, their behavior and appearance is more truly representative. Not to mention cutting off at the knees this gross rich losers who obsess over who they can buy and impress with their money.
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#25I tip more than 20% because the server minimum wage in Massachusetts is $2.63/hour. It is that simple. You would be surprised the number of people who think that a server is getting $8/hour with tips added on top. I'm a heterosexual male in the age range that this guy is remarking on but I tip male servers and older women the same as I tip younger women. He is stereotyping. No doubt there are some who see tipping as…
He's not stereotyping much.
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#26This is a very interesting but dangerous post: It's interesting because obviously the author has put a lot of thought into the topic and has done some research. However, for me, it clearly shows the danger of ideology, in fact it's a great example of it. "To be ideological is to preconceive reality." and we have a good example of that here: The author has strong opinions about sexuality and our approaches to it, ther…
My problem is how he just blithely includes all American men in describing this mindset. I don't know if this is to assuage the author's guilt about thinking this way in the past or what. I mean, clearly the dynamic in question does exist, no question (Hooters). But some of us are able to get laid in spite of, not because of, the size of our wallets. Anyway. I like the idea that because servers are no longer "perform…
"“This isn’t about money,” the man would say. He’d be the one person in a thousand, or in ten thousand, who’d get angry about our fixed service charge"
Maybe not all American men.
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#27I still find the entire idea of tipping to be super silly. Those people are being paid to do their jobs,and you leave them tips if they do them well? Why? I understand that in the US waiters are paid less because they also get tips,but that entire system is wrong(in my personal opinion) - you are going to a restaurant, you should be paying exactly what it says in the menu, not more,not less.
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#28I still find the entire idea of tipping to be super silly. Those people are being paid to do their jobs,and you leave them tips if they do them well? Why? I understand that in the US waiters are paid less because they also get tips,but that entire system is wrong(in my personal opinion) - you are going to a restaurant, you should be paying exactly what it says in the menu, not more,not less.
The system of tipping in the US is used to skirt around minimum wage laws and to push the cost of labor onto the customer, which makes eating out at restaurants seem deceptively cheaper than in other countries.
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#29This is a very interesting but dangerous post: It's interesting because obviously the author has put a lot of thought into the topic and has done some research. However, for me, it clearly shows the danger of ideology, in fact it's a great example of it. "To be ideological is to preconceive reality." and we have a good example of that here: The author has strong opinions about sexuality and our approaches to it, ther…
I didn't get that either. Could it be a generational or regional thing? Of course I can think of a few occasions where a waiter or waitress is so unusually attractive as to be worthy of comment, but I've never known anyone that had a thing about hooking up with waitresses in general.
...oh, Sex at Dawn. Should have seen that coming.
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#30In New Zealand, there is typically no tipping (it reflects excellent service, instead of expected), it's already built into the price - not even listed as a fixed service charge percentage. Perhaps the complaints have more to do with seeing something listed on the bill that you didn't order. If it was removed entirely instead of being presented as a tax, that might change the response.