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Security disclosure about a Bluetooth toilet

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Re: Security disclosure about a Bluetooth toilet

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Although not mentioned in the advisory, this particular model also allows you to play sounds through the toilets internal speaker. Any exploit should surely consist of the lid flapping open and closed while the toilet whispers to you, beckoning you to come closer, and finally squirting you in the eye with the bidet.

"Didn't your parents tell you never to listen to toilets?"

Re: Security disclosure about a Bluetooth toilet

#22

According to this[0] the flush volume of this toilet is 5 liters. If it takes two minutes to flush and refill then the amount of water you could waste in an hour is: 30 * 5 = 150L If a family is away on vacation, you could theoretically flush for days. 24 * 150 = 3600L per day In Seattle the water costs about 4.5 cents per cubic foot.[1] (If it costs 4.50 dollars for one CCF (which is 100 cubic feet) then I move the…

Many water utilities also have a penalty rate if you exceed a given usage.

Re: Security disclosure about a Bluetooth toilet

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...but hopefully not fecal bacteria.

I don't know, Angry Birds (and smart phones in general) ushered in a new era of bathroom-related hygienic disasters.

Yes, but you usually use the phone while seating on the toilet, then put it away, wipe, go and wash your hands. Therefore there is no contact with your phone between wiping and washing your hands. With this - you need to flush, so you will use your phone to flush, then wash your hands, and then touch your phone again - bam,all the bacteria are on your hands again.

Re: Security disclosure about a Bluetooth toilet

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According to this[0] the flush volume of this toilet is 5 liters. If it takes two minutes to flush and refill then the amount of water you could waste in an hour is: 30 * 5 = 150L If a family is away on vacation, you could theoretically flush for days. 24 * 150 = 3600L per day In Seattle the water costs about 4.5 cents per cubic foot.[1] (If it costs 4.50 dollars for one CCF (which is 100 cubic feet) then I move the…

In some parts of the UK water is unlimited - you only pay a yearly fee for access, but you can literally use as much as you like - it's not metered. So flushing your neighbour's toilet would be at most amusing,but not costly.

Re: Security disclosure about a Bluetooth toilet

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.. so you can flush without touching the toilet? .. brilliant :P

But that means you have to touch your phone, probably before washing your hands first. Less than ideal.

> But that means you have to touch your phone, probably before washing your hands first.

If you can one-hand your phone, and do the other task with one hand, this isn't a problem.

Re: Security disclosure about a Bluetooth toilet

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But that means you have to touch your phone, probably before washing your hands first. Less than ideal.

> But that means you have to touch your phone, probably before washing your hands first. If you can one-hand your phone, and do the other task with one hand, this isn't a problem.

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Re: Security disclosure about a Bluetooth toilet

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According to this[0] the flush volume of this toilet is 5 liters. If it takes two minutes to flush and refill then the amount of water you could waste in an hour is: 30 * 5 = 150L If a family is away on vacation, you could theoretically flush for days. 24 * 150 = 3600L per day In Seattle the water costs about 4.5 cents per cubic foot.[1] (If it costs 4.50 dollars for one CCF (which is 100 cubic feet) then I move the…

In some parts of the UK water is unlimited - you only pay a yearly fee for access, but you can literally use as much as you like - it's not metered. So flushing your neighbour's toilet would be at most amusing,but not costly.

I live in St Louis, MO, where in many parts of the area the water system is old enough that they don't even have meters.

The water division charges a flat rate based on the number of rooms and toilets/showers in the house, as that information is on file with the property tax assessor's records. If you ever add or remove a room or water fixture, you have to get a permit, which would get those upgrades reflected on the assessor's records.

Re: Security disclosure about a Bluetooth toilet

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Toilets are awesome. We rarely talk about them (or sewers), but they are a VERY important part of disease control. Toilets save lives, we just don't realise it.

And electronic bidets are the most awesome of toilets. Once you get used to them (and they are fairly affordable as long as you don't go for Toto), using paper feels so... primitive.
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