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Tor use is now forbidden on Kimsufi's OVH

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Re: Tor use is now forbidden on Kimsufi's OVH

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post #7

The relevant French: "depuis quelques mois, nous avons eu plusieurs affaires juridiques lié à l'utilisation de plusieurs réseaux TOR dans le cas de la pedo et on va désormais l'interdire au même titre que tous les systèmes d'anonymisation." My (amateur) translation, cleaning up Google translate (which doesn't recognize Tor as a proper name): "For several months, we've had many legal matters related to the use of TOR…

Just don't use Tor as an exit node with OVH.

Re: Tor use is now forbidden on Kimsufi's OVH

#22

How do they detect the use of a proxy though? That's what I don't understand. Tor's exit nodes are not broadcast, or are they?

The list of Exit nodes is publicly accessible. All you have to do is check if any of your IPs are in that list.

The list of ALL nodes, including ENTRY and MIDDLE are also public.

Re: Tor use is now forbidden on Kimsufi's OVH

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post #19
post #7

The relevant French: "depuis quelques mois, nous avons eu plusieurs affaires juridiques lié à l'utilisation de plusieurs réseaux TOR dans le cas de la pedo et on va désormais l'interdire au même titre que tous les systèmes d'anonymisation." My (amateur) translation, cleaning up Google translate (which doesn't recognize Tor as a proper name): "For several months, we've had many legal matters related to the use of TOR…

Weird, the French part looks like the output of a translator. There are a few faults of vocabulary, grammar and sentence structure. Your translation is correct though.

French is my mother tongue, and I think it sounds alright. It's everyday speech though, not something you'd write in a press statement.

Re: Tor use is now forbidden on Kimsufi's OVH

#25
post #15

OVH used to be one of the top host provider. Last year they removed the unmetered bandwidth and now TOR, VPN too ? (it's unclear to me). What's next ? no HTTPS, European traffic only ? seriously this sadden me, lucky for us Online.net is a good challenger.

They just removed their traffic limits a few days ago.

They removed it on their EU-customer only servers, which means they're relying on the fact that 80-90% (at least) of their bandwidth is going over EU IXes and is thus free to OVH.

Re: Tor use is now forbidden on Kimsufi's OVH

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post #24
post #13

Makes sense. Tor's nature (and its many dodgy uses) will eventually lead to its demise, alas.

I did not downvote but instead invite you to elaborate. Why will Tor cause its own demise?

Operating as an exit node exposes you to a great deal of legal issues, if not liability.

Not to mention annoyance for the user... there will be sites you can't access since many sites block exit node IPs outright because of abuse.

If some random does something illegal and they happen to be using your node, guess who gets the knock on the door?

With that in mind, what user would want to operate an exit node?

Re: Tor use is now forbidden on Kimsufi's OVH

#27

Here's a related link just 5 days ago. Server host OVH warns of 'multi-stage' hacking attack. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07/23/top_server_host_ovh_...

Well...no. This is OVH's own systems being compromised. It has nothing to do with 'hackers' using OVH servers to attack other people.

Re: Tor use is now forbidden on Kimsufi's OVH

#28

OVH used to be one of the top host provider. Last year they removed the unmetered bandwidth and now TOR, VPN too ? (it's unclear to me). What's next ? no HTTPS, European traffic only ? seriously this sadden me, lucky for us Online.net is a good challenger.

OVH is still the cheapest host I've ever seen. 1 TB disk space, 100mbps connection speed, 5TB bandwidth, all for $20/mo?

I'm not complaining, nor have I seen better.

Re: Tor use is now forbidden on Kimsufi's OVH

#29
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did not downvote but instead invite you to elaborate. Why will Tor cause its own demise?

Operating as an exit node exposes you to a great deal of legal issues, if not liability. Not to mention annoyance for the user... there will be sites you can't access since many sites block exit node IPs outright because of abuse. If some random does something illegal and they happen to be using your node, guess who gets the knock on the door? With that in mind, what user would want to operate an exit node?

What about hidden services? In my opinion that's the real heart of Tor. I think the value of exit nodes will start to wane as Tor gains a larger and larger user base and becomes it's own truly viable darknet. As it stands the majority of security related discussions I've come across regarding Tor strongly discourage spending any large amount of time on clearnet services anyway as this create many potential security/privacy risks.

Re: Tor use is now forbidden on Kimsufi's OVH

#30
post #19
post #7

The relevant French: "depuis quelques mois, nous avons eu plusieurs affaires juridiques lié à l'utilisation de plusieurs réseaux TOR dans le cas de la pedo et on va désormais l'interdire au même titre que tous les systèmes d'anonymisation." My (amateur) translation, cleaning up Google translate (which doesn't recognize Tor as a proper name): "For several months, we've had many legal matters related to the use of TOR…

Weird, the French part looks like the output of a translator. There are a few faults of vocabulary, grammar and sentence structure. Your translation is correct though.

Oles (Octave Klaba, the CEO)'s French is always terrible. This is probably one of his best written sentences.
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